Bruce, I believe Larry copied-and-pasted a post from his Facebook.
Therein I suppose lies the rest of the context. I should be able to
read his message properly when I am on my way home in the train today.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> tl;dr
>
> It's missing an intro. There's no clear reason why it would be
> fruitful to climb that mountain of text. I got three paras in and gave
> up.
>
> Simply leaving a blank line between para's would also help, a bit.
>
> Tell 'em what your're going to say.
> Say it.
> Summarize what you said.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nobody's going to read that, whatever it's about. Several long blocks of 
>> text - why should anyone want to read it?
>>
>> Whatever it is you want to say, say it in less than 7 short sentences.
>>
>> B
>>
>>> On 7 Oct 2013, at 08:56, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is somethingt that has been brewing in my mind for a while.  I didn't
>>> have time to do more than just spew it out, without editing.  And it
>>> was a real challlenge trying to phrase it as "there are people out there
>>> doing a lot more work than you realize", and not come across as "I do
>>> all this stuff for you, what are you going to do for me?".  I hope
>>> I succeeded.
>>>
>>> If you are reading this, chances are that I've taken photos of you. I have 
>>> nearly 1,600 people on my friends list, and I'm pretty sure it's not 
>>> because of my sparkling personality. My social awkwardness is not 
>>> legendary, but it is no secret. The reason that most people connect with me 
>>> on social networking sites is because I'm one of the people that gets 
>>> decent photos at those events where the cell phone photos always look like 
>>> crap.  In just about any social group there are a few of us, generally 
>>> three or four, that you see at the various events, taking photos.
>>> Something like half of the photos ever taken, have been taken in the past 
>>> year or two. To a first approximation, everybody now has a camera with them 
>>> all the time.  You might call it a phone, but it's also a camera.  
>>> Meanwhile, the performance of dedicated cameras have improved at the 
>>> exponential rate that Gordon Moore noticed several decades ago.  So, not 
>>> only can just about anyone take a photo at any time, but there's a decent 
>>> chance that photo will look OK, or at least the objects in it will probably 
>>> be recognizable.  But in our various social groups, there are three or four 
>>> of us who fairly regularly hear someone admit that their photos don't turn 
>>> out as well as ours.
>>> There's a dirty secret that the people who make cameras won't tell you.  
>>> While cameras have advanced to the point that you no longer need to have a 
>>> good grasp of photographic fundamentals to take a pictures that is 
>>> reasonably well exposed, and even has subjects in focus, if you don't know 
>>> your aperture from a hole in the ground, chances  are you won't take many 
>>> good photos.
>>> Sure, you'll get lucky now and then. Throw enough darts in the general 
>>> direction of the dart board and a few of them will hit the bullseye, but 
>>> quite frankly, most of your photos will be crap, particularly in anything 
>>> but favorable light.
>>> What camera companies will tell you is that to get good photos, you need 
>>> good (read expensive) cameras and lenses.  This is true to a point.  A good 
>>> photographer can get beautiful artistic photos with just about any working 
>>> camera that you put in their hands, but there are times when you simply 
>>> need the right tool for the job.  If you want pictures of people dancing in 
>>> a room that is too dark to comfortably read in, you are going to need a 
>>> pretty good camera body, a decent lens, and in addition to knowing how to 
>>> use them, you're going to need a decent computer for processing those 
>>> photos.  You can get these things on the cheap, relatively speaking, but if 
>>> you're passionate about photography chances are that you've spent well over 
>>> a thousand dollars on your kit.  Actually, chances are that you've spent 
>>> quite a few times that on your kit, but if you're creative, you might be 
>>> able to take and process good photos in challenging light for under two or 
>>> three thousand dollars.
>>> So, those people getting better photos than you did so because they spent 
>>> the time to learn the basics of photography, and they spent more time 
>>> practicing, and they spent a fair chunk of money on decent camera and 
>>> computer gear. I'm not even going to start on the time, expense and effort 
>>> involved with film and darkroom, I've Been There, Done That, and while it 
>>> has it's appeal, it is beyond the scope of this discussion, and possibly 
>>> even sanity in this day and age.
>>> These are arguably reasons enough to appreciate the people taking those 
>>> photos of you dancing, riding bikes, playing guitar. racing cars or 
>>> whatever.  But we've barely even started.
>>> If we're taking photos at an event, there are things that we're not doing, 
>>> and most of them are the reasons that we started going to those events at 
>>> the first place. If it's at a dance, and I'm taking photos, there isn't a 
>>> pretty girl in my arms moving to the music.  If I'm at a class and taking 
>>> photos, I'm missing a lot of what the teacher is saying, because while the 
>>> teacher is talking, I'm also looking at the light, thinking about when 
>>> something interesting is going to happen, taking care not to disturb class 
>>> myself and very little of my brain is left over to absorb what is being 
>>> taught.
>>> I'm not saying that taking photos isn't fun.  It is a lot of fun, or we 
>>> wouldn't be doing it on our own time, and giving away the photos for free.  
>>> There are a lot of reasons to give them away for free.  The big one is that 
>>> most of us do this as a way to give back to the community and our friends. 
>>> The other reason is that if we tried to sell our photos, we wouldn't get 
>>> any money for them anyways, in no small part because we'd be competing 
>>> against the people who are giving them away.
>>> But, we aren't done yet.  Taking the photos is the easy part.  Remember 
>>> that I mentioned computers.  The difference between crappy photos and 
>>> decent photos may be skill and equipment, but the difference between decent 
>>> photos and good photos is polishing them up in post processing, and the 
>>> difference between good photos and great photos, is spending the time to go 
>>> through them and deciding which 90-99% of them to throw away.
>>> If I spend an hour taking photos, and I'm just doing a quick and dirty job 
>>> to post them on facebook, I can probably process them in an hour's work at 
>>> home. I upload them to the computer, do rough exposure and color 
>>> correction, pre-render them so that I can scan through them quickly, take 
>>> several passes throwing away the worst ones, and then spend a bit more 
>>> time, making another pass through them to throw out all but the best.
>>> LIke I said, for something like facebook, I generally do a quick and dirty, 
>>> because most people seem like they'd rather have a decent photo of them 
>>> doing something they love, than no photo, and a lot of people would rather 
>>> have even an embarrassingly bad photo, than no photo at all.  For the 
>>> serious photos, I tend to spend as much, or more time, going over the ones 
>>> that are left to pick the few really god that make it to the next cut.
>>> So, where you might think that each photo you see posted on facebook only 
>>> represents the ten seconds it might take you to pull out your cell phone 
>>> and take a snap, even ignoring the time and effort spent hauling the (very 
>>> expensive) bag of camera gear around, each photo that you see, actually 
>>> represents several minutes of work waiting for the right moment, taking 
>>> that photo, and the other then that got thrown away, plus at least that 
>>> much time, generally late at night, working on the photos so that the ones 
>>> you see are better than pretty decent.
>>> And, if you actually run events, and appreciate having good photos of the 
>>> event so people can see how much fun it is, think about ways to make the 
>>> people who put the effort in to take those photos feel appreciated.
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