On 9 Mar 2014, at 04:40, "Alan C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It's amazing how quickly the face of the Thames is changing.

Yes, when I moved here 20 years ago it was all rather a lovely forgotten 
backwater with crumbling and derelict light industry along the river, a 
foul-smelling starch refinery and a lovely old boat repair yard. The boat 
repair yard is still here but will be moved downstream to make way for the 
liner terminal and for blocks of flats.

> Someone will be making a fortune. I didn't realise Blackheath actually 
> extended all the way to the Thames. You'd think the part by the river would 
> have a different name.

It does - it's Greenwich. 

Greenwich as a historical settlement is much older than Blackheath, going back 
at least to the Bronze age. The name Greenwich is Saxon, but the park contains 
burial mounds that are thought to be early Bronze Age, and which the 
Anglo-saxons reused. There are also Roman buildings and the settlement is well 
attested at that time, not least because the Romans built a road through the 
park (they'd never get planning permission these days). There's a coaching inn 
called the Spread Eagle at the point where the road meets the riverside; pubs 
with Eagle in the name are supposedly, perhaps apocryphally, indicative of 
where the legions planted their standards and set up a barracks.

Greenwich Park used to be part of Blackheath until Henry VIII enclosed it, so 
in that sense Blackheath does extend to the river, but the bit where I live was 
marshland until the late 19th century. Endersby's Wharf, which is where the 
beach and the cruise terminal are, have been industrial wharves for centuries. 
One of the buildings not being demolished is Endersby house, which is 
name-checked in Moby Dick. Endersby Wharf was a whaling station, and the name 
features in place-names in Antarctica and other whaling parts of the world.

> A lot of the buildings being demolished are not that old judging by the 
> concrete. What will they do with all that rubble?

Just a few yards downstream from Enderby Wharf is Ballast Wharf. Gravel used to 
be extracted from Blackheath and loaded onto ships as ballast. There is still a 
lot of activity there now off-loading various grades of gravel and rock from 
ships, presumably to be trucked into parts of London where it's needed. My 
guess is that much of that rubble will be taken by barge to landfill, to 
reclaiming land, and to be recycled as building material or ballast. A friend 
of mine who's a structural engineer and worked on the emergency response to the 
Haiti earthquake told me that it was a big problem for them to dispose of the 
rubble, which they eventually decided to use to extend the island.

London had similar problems after the blitz; much of that rubble was used to 
fill in the old gravel works on Blackheath. What goes around comes around.

B





> 
> Alan C
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Bob W
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 9:18 PM
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> Subject: Beach bike bomb-blast breasts showing building site Bob's barrack
> 
> It's been a lovely warm spring day today here in Olde Londonville, so I had
> a nice walk along the river near my house. Here, by way of contrast with
> Frank's ice-bikers, is Mr. Sandman:
> <http://www.web-options.com/Crusoe/content/20140308_143434541_iOS_large.html
> 
> If you stay in the same place and turn 180 degrees you see this:
> <http://www.web-options.com/Crusoe/content/20140308_143521739_iOS_large.html
> 
> You can see an end-of-terrace house with its chimney breasts showing -
> that's the street where I live. There probably used to be another house on
> the end of the terrace, but a bomb landed there during the war, and that's
> likely to be why the breasts are visible.
> 
> In next to no time that building site will be this:
> <http://www.westproperties.co.uk/portfolio_greenwich.html>
> and you won't be able to cycle on the beach anymore. There won't be a beach.
> 
> Pictures taken with a mobile phone.
> 
> B
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