I agree, that in the hands of capable photographer K-3 with DA* 16-50 is probably 95% as good as 6D with 24-70/2.8L if seriously lighter and somewhat smaller. However, it is not the opinion of knowledgeable photographer such as you, Paul, that matters (no disrespect here). In order for K-3 to compete, Pentax/Ricoh have to cause a shift in public opinion. This is a task that I honestly have no idea how to approach.
I should point out that Q-system, K-system and 645-system is three systems to support. Arguably both Nikon 1 and Canon M are "third" systems as far as these companies go. The first two being APS-C and 24x36 mm systems. However, I am not entirely sure that Pentax has capacity to sustain "battle" on all three fronts. I very much would wish them to be able to, as this will at the very least provide competition to big brands thereby making everybody's life better. But I much rather Q-system wasn't started at all whereupon the resources invested in it were invested elsewhere. For example, I really am sad knowing that Pentax/Ricoh fully abandoned Ricoh GXR. I've just read on one Russian forum that at the recent exhibition Pentax/Ricoh reps were surprised to see Ricoh GXR-M with interchangeable lenses. But then again, I realize that I am probably not among the people who're targeted by Pentax/Ricoh marketing anyway. I am not serious enough to buy into 645Z/D nor am I willing to keep spending money on APS-C - I've got what I need. On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > But I suspect that the K-3 with Pentax DA* lenses can outperform the 6D in > most respects. Or at the very least, it's roughly equivalent. Pentax is still > a niche marketer. If they can succeed with the K-3 and the 645Z, they may > well be at the limits of their current capacity. I'd hate to see them abandon > further development of APS-C glass by spreading themselves too thin. > > > On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Boris Liberman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Indeed, you're right, Paul. >> >> I should point out that Pentax 645Z would compete with the Nikon D4 or >> Canon 1Dx (or whatever the top models they have out there), which >> means prices in excess of USD 5,000. Pentax K-3 competes with Nikon >> D7100 and/or Canon 70D or should they introduce replacements for D300 >> and 7D respectively, it would compete with them. Now, assuming my >> reasoning is correct, it leaves the whole market segment of less >> expensive 24x36mm cameras, such as Nikon D610 or Canon 6D unattended. >> It is entirely possible that Pentax considers these cameras to be >> direct competitors of K-3. However, as it is now, K-3 looks less >> attractive to me than, say Canon 6D. At the same time 645Z (or >> D800/D4, 1Dx/5Dmk3) is out of my financial reach. So, I am capped as >> far as sensor size possibilities go, although in Canon/Nikon land I >> could upgrade from top of the line APS-C to 24x36. >> >> It is entirely possible that I am not inside what Pentax considers >> their target demographics. Suffices it to say, I am far more >> interested to see what kind of market development bring Sony A7 series >> of cameras, as I can easily see one such camera in my photo bag when >> my Ricoh GXR-M's expire. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Can't use all the Pentax APS-C lenses on 24 x 36 anyway. Pentax doesn't >>> have a state of the art lens line for "full frame." >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> >>>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Mark Roberts <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> >>>>> 51 megapixel 43.8 x 32.8 sensor. ISO to 204,800, and it's a bit smaller >>>>> than a Nikon D4. Why would anyone want a 24 x 36 Pentax? >>>> >>>> So they can use the same lenses on their full-frame and their APS-C >>>> cameras? And not buy another entire set of lenses? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia >>>> www.robertstech.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> Boris >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
