Well, I love the aperture ring and have only 3 Pentax lenses that don't have one and quite a few that do. So I stand with you on that point. But I don't agree with your overall argument.

When you say "Allowing full use of aperture rings on legacy lenses appeals to most everyone." I think of that Wikipedia notation: "Citation Needed." Do 20 somethings desire an aperture ring? I thought they wanted touch screen controls. While I like aperture rings not everyone does and I can't assume that my personal preferences are the norm. And while I like aperture rings, the dual wheel aperture / shutter control in the K3 is very muck like the dual wheel control of the Pz-1p. No aperture ing required. And the Pa-1p is a mid 1990's camera.

I'll be interested to see where this debate goes - I am leaving for a work trip in the morning and won't be back till late Friday night. Will be checking in on the debate when I return.

Mark



On 9/17/2014 9:22 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
That's just silly. Allowing full use of aperture rings on legacy lenses appeals to most everyone. Just look at Fuji, Sure those designs are fly by wire but I've never read a review that said; "I wish Fuji would introduce a lens without an aperture ring". Lots of us miss the aperture ring, at least on shorter focal lengths. Reaching the aperture ring on long lenses with that control near the camera body can be a PITA, when shooting hand held, but on anything up to about 200mm the aperture ring on the lens body is a better solution. Change the aperture with you left hand, change shutter with thumb, forefinger shutter release. It's such a natural way or working.

On 9/17/2014 9:14 PM, Mark C wrote:
They will never have the margins that they need to reintroduce lenses like they used to have if they bog down new offering with compatibility features that appeal to an extremely small market share.

On 9/17/2014 8:57 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
yes, but those decades old lenses are better than the zero lenses they offer now of the same formula.
On 9/17/2014 8:54 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'd expect all A, F and FA lenses would work with a FF Pentax. That's a lot of legacy glass. If they keep the green-button-stop-down-metering feature, there is still compatibility with even older glass.

I'd like to see Pentax put more effort into attracting new buyers who will want new lenses and leveraging that to rebuild the product line. Investing in the very small number of people who bought lenses decades ago and don't want to upgrade is not a good business strategy, especially when your current products support this market segment better than most of your competitors.

Mark

On 9/17/2014 8:38 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
I really think ricoh/pentax would be wise if they had a design goal of the first ff dslr to be compatible with the greatest number of LEGACY K mount lenses as possible. FF and APS-C . This is simple logic because they dont have a line of FF lenses to sell yet. Anything less than that will be a failure in my honest opinion.



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