In a perfect world a camera would have both, you could program the front
wheel to change shutter speed the back for ISO or vice versa if you
prefer, change the aperture from the lens, The PZ1p allowed fully
functional aperture ring use or control from the body. being a film
camera changing ASA from one of the control wheels would have been
problematic but in the digital age it's just once again logical.
The point being, you could work either way all the time, or choose the
best way for the particular circumstance.
I just don't get why this, an obvious cost savings measure, and a step
backward from understanding functionality, gets defended as the wave of
the future.
Having the aperture ring on the lens is logical. It divides up tasks
more evenly between the operators two hands. With the aperture control
on the lens it helps the mind grasp what you're controlling.
Really I just don't get how obscuring functionality is the future.
The other question; Is Fuji producing cameras meant only for old farts,
after all, all their lenses have aperture rings.
On 9/17/2014 9:57 PM, Mark C wrote:
Well, I love the aperture ring and have only 3 Pentax lenses that
don't have one and quite a few that do. So I stand with you on that
point. But I don't agree with your overall argument.
When you say "Allowing full use of aperture rings on legacy lenses
appeals to most everyone." I think of that Wikipedia notation:
"Citation Needed." Do 20 somethings desire an aperture ring? I thought
they wanted touch screen controls. While I like aperture rings not
everyone does and I can't assume that my personal preferences are the
norm. And while I like aperture rings, the dual wheel aperture /
shutter control in the K3 is very muck like the dual wheel control of
the Pz-1p. No aperture ing required. And the Pa-1p is a mid 1990's
camera.
I'll be interested to see where this debate goes - I am leaving for a
work trip in the morning and won't be back till late Friday night.
Will be checking in on the debate when I return.
Mark
On 9/17/2014 9:22 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
That's just silly. Allowing full use of aperture rings on legacy
lenses appeals to most everyone. Just look at Fuji, Sure those
designs are fly by wire but I've never read a review that said; "I
wish Fuji would introduce a lens without an aperture ring". Lots of
us miss the aperture ring, at least on shorter focal lengths.
Reaching the aperture ring on long lenses with that control near the
camera body can be a PITA, when shooting hand held, but on anything
up to about 200mm the aperture ring on the lens body is a better
solution. Change the aperture with you left hand, change shutter
with thumb, forefinger shutter release. It's such a natural way or
working.
On 9/17/2014 9:14 PM, Mark C wrote:
They will never have the margins that they need to reintroduce
lenses like they used to have if they bog down new offering with
compatibility features that appeal to an extremely small market share.
On 9/17/2014 8:57 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
yes, but those decades old lenses are better than the zero lenses
they offer now of the same formula.
On 9/17/2014 8:54 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'd expect all A, F and FA lenses would work with a FF Pentax.
That's a lot of legacy glass. If they keep the
green-button-stop-down-metering feature, there is still
compatibility with even older glass.
I'd like to see Pentax put more effort into attracting new buyers
who will want new lenses and leveraging that to rebuild the
product line. Investing in the very small number of people who
bought lenses decades ago and don't want to upgrade is not a good
business strategy, especially when your current products support
this market segment better than most of your competitors.
Mark
On 9/17/2014 8:38 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
I really think ricoh/pentax would be wise if they had a design
goal of the first ff dslr to be compatible
with the greatest number of LEGACY K mount lenses as possible. FF
and APS-C . This is simple logic because they dont have a line of
FF lenses to sell yet. Anything less than that will be a failure
in my honest opinion.
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