Just a few thoughts on all things Adobe (or not):

I use Photoshop. I tried Lightroom, but my initial experience was not
encouraging.

I've mentioned before that the first time I installed Lightroom on my
laptop it froze everything up for 24 hours while it added every JPEG &
graphical widget from every program on my laptop to the catalog.

My most recent experience when I installed Lightroom again, I couldn't
find where it was actually storing the photos when I got home & wanted
to copy them over to my main photography computer. Lightroom could find
them, but I couldn't.

The real thing Lightroom has going for it is the engine to organize your
photos. But I can get 90% of what Lightroom offers in organizational
tools from Adobe Bridge that's included in Photoshop. I have a structure
in my mind and on my hard-drives that I use. Lightroom seems extremely
recalcitrant to follow my structure.

I'm currently running PhotoshopCS6 Extended on my main photo computer &
PhotoshopCS5 on my laptop.

You can still find the NON-cloud version of Photoshop CS6, but I was
shocked by the price just now when I looked it up on Amazon.
Financially, for anyone who doesn't already own the software, Lightroom
5 looks to win hands down.

I don't know how much demand there was among photographers for Adobe's
Creative Cloud. Most every photographer I've talked to who is using it
only switched to it under duress.

For actually scanning old slides, negatives & photos, I'm more impressed
with VueScan every time I use it.

On 12/5/2014 3:50 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither?

For the last couple of years, photography has been a dormant hobby, the
camera really only coming out to record events, usually in jpeg, so I can
swiftly take them off the card and e-mail on if required. I now finally have
some time to get back and do long overdue photo jobs, you know scan 3-4000
slides and about 1000 rather aged photos, that sort of thing, and I want to
improve/repair them as well. Most of them are very old family pictures that,
sadly, only I am left to reliably say who they were and when/where they were
taken, so this can be passed down to the next generation.

I also want to start shooting more RAW files, and in all the chaos of the
last couple of years, I no longer have any reliable software.

So, running a Windows PC, I looked at what seems the most popular software
and then the reviews on YouTube. In either Lightroom or Photoshop videos (do
people call them videos in 2014?), they would tell you why this was the best
choice and in the final minute suggest that you'll probably need the other
as well. A sitting on the fence special.

Anyway, given the vast difference in price between the two (I'll come back
to that in a moment), I will be getting a new copy of Lightroom and a 4TB
external hard drive this weekend. Then we come to Photoshop. It appears that
it is now no longer available to buy as usual software, but as a monthly
subscription and use of 'the cloud'. Given that in real terms, external
storage in the TB range is cheap - the 4TB drive I'm getting is far cheaper
than the 500GB drive a bought a couple of years ago - why would you want to
store your work where the provider can either go bust, be hacked or you may
have intermittent access to the internet? I also strongly object to paying a
monthly fee to something I may or may not use on a regular basis. Next I
looked at getting the last software version, but copies of this range from
almost free, to re-funding the Apollo missions. Is there an equivalent to
Photoshop made by someone else who doesn't want to grip you firmly by the
bank account, or have they gripped folk like this as there is no real
alternative?

In the old days, I'd shoot a roll of slide film with my LX, send the film
off to Agfa or whoever, and job done.

No doubt this subject has been kicked about to destruction - hence the
subject title -  but any advice welcomed.

Malcolm

PS - Used the K3 for the first time yesterday, absolutely love it. Deeper
grip is fantastic.




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