John - if you want to know where LR puts your photo, right-click on the photo and select "show in explorer" on the menu. If you're an apple user it'll say safari.
And actually, I put the photos in a file folder structure that pleases me. It's an extension of the very same structure I used when Bridge was my organizing tool. I either tell Lightroom where to put them during import, or I place them myself, then tell LR to register them in the catalog. This is why I always recommend that new users view Kost's videos. Most of this is described in the first 10 or 20 minutes. It's much clearer than the instruction manual or online help. LR is a system of organizing and handling your photos. It's not just a stand alone program. If your system of using PS and Bridge works for you, that is great. That's what I used for years. The Adobe Camera Raw module of Bridge (or PS) has the functionality of the Develop module of LR. Kelby has this set of "100 ways that..." Lightroom is better than Bridge. I rephrased the original title. It was something like "100 ways LR kicks Bridge's..." You can fill in the blanks. <http://kelbyone.com/100ways/> When you have absolutely nothing better to do, look at a few of them and see if you have a reason to change.\ As far as the creative cloud is concerned, the conversion rate was overwhelming. It happened much faster than they expected. Once they figured out that photographers didn't want to pay for the whole suite and charged $10/mo for PS, LR and a few other things it was not much of a decision for most. Now for the next big controversy, they are developing and testing a completely on-line version of PS. I'm sure that'll get everyone wound up. gs George Sinos -------------------- www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote: > Just a few thoughts on all things Adobe (or not): > > I use Photoshop. I tried Lightroom, but my initial experience was not > encouraging. > > I've mentioned before that the first time I installed Lightroom on my > laptop it froze everything up for 24 hours while it added every JPEG & > graphical widget from every program on my laptop to the catalog. > > My most recent experience when I installed Lightroom again, I couldn't > find where it was actually storing the photos when I got home & wanted > to copy them over to my main photography computer. Lightroom could find > them, but I couldn't. > > The real thing Lightroom has going for it is the engine to organize your > photos. But I can get 90% of what Lightroom offers in organizational > tools from Adobe Bridge that's included in Photoshop. I have a structure > in my mind and on my hard-drives that I use. Lightroom seems extremely > recalcitrant to follow my structure. > > I'm currently running PhotoshopCS6 Extended on my main photo computer & > PhotoshopCS5 on my laptop. > > You can still find the NON-cloud version of Photoshop CS6, but I was > shocked by the price just now when I looked it up on Amazon. > Financially, for anyone who doesn't already own the software, Lightroom > 5 looks to win hands down. > > I don't know how much demand there was among photographers for Adobe's > Creative Cloud. Most every photographer I've talked to who is using it > only switched to it under duress. > > For actually scanning old slides, negatives & photos, I'm more impressed > with VueScan every time I use it. > > On 12/5/2014 3:50 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: >> >> Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither? >> >> For the last couple of years, photography has been a dormant hobby, the >> camera really only coming out to record events, usually in jpeg, so I can >> swiftly take them off the card and e-mail on if required. I now finally >> have >> some time to get back and do long overdue photo jobs, you know scan 3-4000 >> slides and about 1000 rather aged photos, that sort of thing, and I want >> to >> improve/repair them as well. Most of them are very old family pictures >> that, >> sadly, only I am left to reliably say who they were and when/where they >> were >> taken, so this can be passed down to the next generation. >> >> I also want to start shooting more RAW files, and in all the chaos of the >> last couple of years, I no longer have any reliable software. >> >> So, running a Windows PC, I looked at what seems the most popular software >> and then the reviews on YouTube. In either Lightroom or Photoshop videos >> (do >> people call them videos in 2014?), they would tell you why this was the >> best >> choice and in the final minute suggest that you'll probably need the other >> as well. A sitting on the fence special. >> >> Anyway, given the vast difference in price between the two (I'll come back >> to that in a moment), I will be getting a new copy of Lightroom and a 4TB >> external hard drive this weekend. Then we come to Photoshop. It appears >> that >> it is now no longer available to buy as usual software, but as a monthly >> subscription and use of 'the cloud'. Given that in real terms, external >> storage in the TB range is cheap - the 4TB drive I'm getting is far >> cheaper >> than the 500GB drive a bought a couple of years ago - why would you want >> to >> store your work where the provider can either go bust, be hacked or you >> may >> have intermittent access to the internet? I also strongly object to paying >> a >> monthly fee to something I may or may not use on a regular basis. Next I >> looked at getting the last software version, but copies of this range from >> almost free, to re-funding the Apollo missions. Is there an equivalent to >> Photoshop made by someone else who doesn't want to grip you firmly by the >> bank account, or have they gripped folk like this as there is no real >> alternative? >> >> In the old days, I'd shoot a roll of slide film with my LX, send the film >> off to Agfa or whoever, and job done. >> >> No doubt this subject has been kicked about to destruction - hence the >> subject title - but any advice welcomed. >> >> Malcolm >> >> PS - Used the K3 for the first time yesterday, absolutely love it. Deeper >> grip is fantastic. >> >> >> >> > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

