Self-driven cars will record all the variables that they monitor and
control, and there will be a blackbox >recorder like on a plane, which will
be amenable to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers, so
>there will be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide.
So called 'blackboxes' have been in new cars for several years - recording
among other things accelerator & brake pedal usage. The issue has surfaced
as to who 'owns' the data - the car owner, law enforcement. In some cases
I'm aware of it has taken a court order for outsiders to access the data.
Black boxes are great in unintended acceleration cases especially where the
driver states he was pressing the brake pedal when the data shown otherwisw.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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From: "Bob W-PDML" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo!
That case was nearly 50 years ago; since that time consumer power has
changed dramatically, and so has the availability of evidence. Self-driven
cars will record all the variables that they monitor and control, and
there will be a blackbox recorder like on a plane, which will be amenable
to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers, so there will
be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide.
They have no choice but to put safety before profit. The alternative is no
more manufacturer.
Because of increased consumer power, thanks to people like Ralph Nader who
was so vilified by so many Americans caught up in the corporate lie,
manufacturers are far quicker to recall products for much smaller issues,
and in the case of software it will be far easier and cheaper to correct
it than will ever be the case with hardware.
B
On 31 Aug 2015, at 21:30, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Do you remember the Ford Pinto with the faulty gas tanks?
http://www.autosafety.org/uploads/phpq3mJ7F_FordMemo.pdf
Do you think the manufacturers of self-driving cars will be any more
ethical? Will they put passenger safety ahead of profit?
On 8/31/2015 3:25 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:10, John <[email protected]> wrote:
According to some, [...] those who deny that it is possible are
wrong.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
[...] The conspiracy folks [...]
Do you really, really think that the people who are designing this
stuff are not aware of the risks, and do not spend a lot of time and
money thinking about this stuff, working through the possibilities
and the countermeasures? Have you any idea at all of the types of
people who are involved in designing and validating safety-critical
software?
Even so, it won't be perfect, but anyone who thinks that the risks of
the imperfect software coupled with a bloody big Stop! button in
every car outweigh the benefits of saving upwards of 1,000,000 lives
per year lost as the result of human errors must be barking mad.
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