I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s... Cheers,
frank On 1 September, 2015 2:11:57 PM EDT, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote: >>Self-driven cars will record all the variables that they monitor and >>control, and there will be a blackbox >recorder like on a plane, which >will >>be amenable to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers, >so >> >there will be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide. > >So called 'blackboxes' have been in new cars for several years - >recording >among other things accelerator & brake pedal usage. The issue has >surfaced >as to who 'owns' the data - the car owner, law enforcement. In some >cases >I'm aware of it has taken a court order for outsiders to access the >data. > >Black boxes are great in unintended acceleration cases especially where >the >driver states he was pressing the brake pedal when the data shown >otherwisw. > >Kenneth Waller >http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob W-PDML" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > > >> That case was nearly 50 years ago; since that time consumer power has > >> changed dramatically, and so has the availability of evidence. >Self-driven >> cars will record all the variables that they monitor and control, and > >> there will be a blackbox recorder like on a plane, which will be >amenable >> to independent accident investigators, not to say lawyers, so there >will >> be nowhere for the manufacturers to hide. >> >> They have no choice but to put safety before profit. The alternative >is no >> more manufacturer. >> >> Because of increased consumer power, thanks to people like Ralph >Nader who >> was so vilified by so many Americans caught up in the corporate lie, >> manufacturers are far quicker to recall products for much smaller >issues, >> and in the case of software it will be far easier and cheaper to >correct >> it than will ever be the case with hardware. >> >> B >> >> >>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 21:30, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Do you remember the Ford Pinto with the faulty gas tanks? >>> >>> http://www.autosafety.org/uploads/phpq3mJ7F_FordMemo.pdf >>> >>> Do you think the manufacturers of self-driving cars will be any more >>> ethical? Will they put passenger safety ahead of profit? >>> >>>> On 8/31/2015 3:25 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:10, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> According to some, [...] those who deny that it is possible are >>>>> wrong. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/ >>>>> >>>>> [...] The conspiracy folks [...] >>>>> >>>> >>>> Do you really, really think that the people who are designing this >>>> stuff are not aware of the risks, and do not spend a lot of time >and >>>> money thinking about this stuff, working through the possibilities >>>> and the countermeasures? Have you any idea at all of the types of >>>> people who are involved in designing and validating safety-critical >>>> software? >>>> >>>> Even so, it won't be perfect, but anyone who thinks that the risks >of >>>> the imperfect software coupled with a bloody big Stop! button in >>>> every car outweigh the benefits of saving upwards of 1,000,000 >lives >>>> per year lost as the result of human errors must be barking mad. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
