Hear, Hear!
J

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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Brian Walters <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, I find it odd behaviour - but I'm an old grump, anyway.
> 
> But they're not hurting anyone so, if it makes them happy, let them get
> on with it.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This morning someone sent me a link to a brief blogpost on Cnet, which 
>> got me (re)evaluating - (re)thinking certain aspects of photography in 
>> our lives. The photo was of a crowd in front of a famous politician
>> waving 
>> at them, while most people turned their backs and taking selfies of 
>> themselves with the famous people being the background.
>>  (The link is below, but first the thoughts.)
>> 
>> Over many years of taking photographs, sometimes as tourist (i.e. in very 
>> touristic places, etc.), - I've been offered by others (friends, 
>> relatives, bystanders) to take a picture of _me_. ... or rather of 
>> _me__being__there_.
>> Not that I was against those (and sometimes I did want some picture, 
>> especially with friends or family), but I was not particularly ego to get 
>> those. I wanted to take some interesting (at least to me) of the views 
>> from that place.
>> One of the repeated questions/comments I had (usually not from close 
>> friends or relatives who already knew what I am after, but from more 
>> distant friends): "Why do you need those? - See there, they sell cards 
>> with this view already printed."
>> 
>> Why was/am I taking those photos?
>> 1. I enjoy _taking_ them and
>> 2. I enjoy looking at them later, as they remind me of good time I had 
>> there. And often, aftre many years, I remember the photos I've taken even 
>> without looking at them: they are a connection for that place, person, 
>> event. ... even though I might not be in those pictures myself.
>> (As an aside, - I appreciate the fact of being in some of those photos 
>> more now, as my daughter is growing up, - so, that she can see her dad in 
>> those photos too.)
>> 
>> Now, getting back to the conclusion quoted in the Subject of this
>> message.
>> Yes, selfie is the fad du jour [is that tautology?].
>> To this date, most of the selfies I've taken are with my SLR (with a 
>> tripod or a mirror help). But I don't want to judge those people who 
>> enjoy selfies: to each of his/her own. And to some extent, those people 
>> aren't that much different from those stranger on the street who are ego 
>> to pose for you even though they are never going to see that photo. (This 
>> was a very frequent situation with kid groups in Japan.)
>> 
>> 
>> My understanding of the said blogpost is that someone is trying to 
>> question of how polite it is to take a selfie with a famous person (and 
>> hence turning one's behind to her/him) as opposed to piercing 
>> with your eyes and listening.
>> 
>> That brought to memories yet another story. Long time ago, one 
>> famous Russian poet wrote a song that was "thinking" about a family 
>> being photographed in front of the monument to the famous Russian 
>> poet Alexandr Pushkin. The idea was based on the juxtaposition of the 
>> timelessness and greatness of someone whose fame survived the test of 
>> centuries, and "todayliness" of the concerns and that-minute problems of 
>> that family. I remember that a friend was thinking that the author was 
>> criticizing the family, and that that type of photo was awkward or even 
>> ridiculous due to the contrast. While I understand that point of view 
>> (and I personally do not like taking photographs of people (and myself) 
>> specifically with someone's _personal_ monument), I never felt 
>> comfortable with that criticism. And I've always thought that the song's 
>> author was just bringing up the contrast as a way to highlight the 
>> simultaneous distance and closeness of the great and small, old and 
>> contemporary, timeless and transient.
>> 
>> But back to today's photo, here is what I am curious to hear from you, 
>> deal PDMLers:
>> As photographers with different preferences, views and reasons to take 
>> photographs, what do you think about what is shown in the photograph 
>> discussed in that blogpost?
>> (Please, let's not digress into a political debate about the specific 
>> politician, so, let's keep the political comments on mute.)
>> 
>> Here is the blogpost in question: https://goo.gl/VC5fU3 .
>> 
>> Thanks in advance to all who will respond.
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
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