On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:57, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: > > Jostein Øksne wrote: >> I remember one time way back in the gelatine days of photography, that a guy >> called Shel Belinkoff posted a thematically similar photo. It triggered one >> of the most on-topic flame wars we ever had. >> >> With this photo, I get the feeling of observing a vulnerable person exposed >> in a vulnerable moment. I tend to side with Ann in finding it crossing a >> fine line of something negative. Indecency, maybe. >> Jostein > > I think that Marco should change his name to Rorschach. If you don't find > anything wrong with someone being fat, there is nothing to criticize in the > photo. Also note that what she is eating is an apple, something people > attempting to lose weight often eat as they can be filling without a high > caloric load. > > This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph itself is > making no value judgement, however the people looking at it are free to be as > judgmental as they want. >
That's rubbish, and you know it. The photographer chooses which pictures to take, and then chooses whether or not to show them, then chooses how they are shown. Every photograph anyone ever took makes many value judgements. B > >> >> Den 28. november 2016 15.51.08 CET, skrev ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com>: >>> It's complicated, but I certainly mocked obesity in some street photos >>> in the past and I feel bad about it now... though I worry about friends >>> >>> who are from a health perspective.. >>> She also actually has food in her mouth and that is always something I >>> turn away from no matter who is eating.. >>> >>> ann >>> >>>> On 11/28/2016 12:09 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: >>>> Hmm… Interested in how you define “this kind of shot.” >>>> >>>> m >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing >>> this.. >>>>> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit.. but now I >>> find it difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming.. >>>>> ann >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: >>>>>> Mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> m >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele<ann...@nyc.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> Now that's just mean.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ann >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: >>>>>>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Comments, as always, welcomed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Marco >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------- >>>>>>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
