Your masochism knows no bounds.

> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read 
> French literature...
> 
> > On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-)
> > 
> > When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta 16-P 
> > which cost me the grand sum of $19 at Camera Craft in New Rochelle, NY), 
> > having been given a couple of Kodak cameras before then. But I wanted 
> > something more adjustable. My mother loaned me her Argus C3... with which I 
> > learned a great deal about ruining film until I figured out how to work 
> > aperture, shutter speed, and focus. AND remembered to wind on to the next 
> > frame before re-cocking the shutter. 
> > 
> > There really isn't a modern equivalent. I'd never start a youngster on a 
> > 35mm film camera nowadays, and any digital camera today has way more 
> > capabilities and automation ... And the expectations of young people today 
> > are quite different from my expectations of a camera in 1968. 
> > 
> > However, as a teacher of photography, my goal in getting people who are 
> > interested started out is to let them begin with focus and understanding 
> > light, and understanding the difference between what your eyes see and what 
> > the camera might record. Nothing on the market today would start a young 
> > person off with a better basic understanding of those things than an 
> > instant film camera with manual focus, and it would also serve to give them 
> > the immediate return on their effort that is so important to the learning 
> > experience. Something like the Lomo Instant Square I obtained recently or a 
> > Polaroid SX-70 with the Polaroid Original film would do a great job of 
> > teaching these things, and would also be special, different, from the 
> > smartphone experience in ways that would be beneficial to learning how to 
> > be patient, how to be economical of exposures, and how to "look, think, and 
> > consider" before shooting. 
> > 
> > G
> > —
> > No matter where you go, there you are.
> > 
> > 
> >> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him feeling 
> >> inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of existence, so 
> >> anything by Pentax will do.
> >> 
> >> When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly 
> >> frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the 
> >> half-frame one) and we could use the school darkroom, so I learned a bit 
> >> with that. There is a digital version now - something like that would 
> >> probably be good.
> >> 
> >> B
> >> 
> >>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Eric Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. 
> >>> He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty 
> >>> precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may not be 
> >>> best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.
> >>>

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