Now I'll have to go and find whatever it was that I read.

> On 09 March 2019 at 22:50 Rick Womer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I just re-read the 1998 paper and his 1999 follow-up letter. The point of 
> both was a putative link between MMR vaccine and autism. There were signs of 
> inflammation in some of his subjects’ colons, but no virus was recovered (or 
> even sought.
> 
> Rick
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2019, at 10:34 AM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 09 March 2019 at 02:39 Rick Womer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> John,
> >> 
> >> My professional opinion as a pediatrician:
> >> 
> >> Having measles confers lifelong immunity. So does the measles vaccine.
> >> 
> >> The current measles outbreaks are the result of growing numbers of 
> >> UNvaccinated children of “anti-vax” parents. This whole thing was started 
> >> by a British physician, Andrew Wakefield, who published an utterly 
> >> fraudulent paper in 1998 (in The Lancet) linking the meals-mumps-rubella 
> >> vaccine to autism. He then established a lucrative business as an expert 
> >> witness for solicitors bringing suit against vaccine companies on behalf 
> >> of the parents of autistic children.
> > 
> > 
> > Not to defend Wakefield or the antivaccination creed but I read his paper 
> > when it first came out.  What he actually said (paraphrased as I don't 
> > think I have a copy any more) was that his small sample found that the 
> > recognised autistic children in it had live measles virus in their 
> > gastrointestinal tract and that this needed to be investigated.  This 
> > finding was confirmed, iirc, by a much larger Japanese study some time 
> > later.  
> > 
> >> 
> >> After the fraud was uncovered and the paper retracted, the General Medical 
> >> Council struck him from the Register (revoked his medical license), which 
> >> meant that he could no longer practice in the UK, any Commonwealth 
> >> country, or the EU. So, he set up shop in Texas.
> >> 
> >> I was at Great Ormond Street Hospital in 1981-82, after a previous vaccine 
> >> scare. I saw unvaccinated children have their cancer treatments much 
> >> delayed because of tetanus and whooping cough—both of which are awful 
> >> diseases to behold. The previous year there had been a case of measles in 
> >> a child with leukemia. It was quickly fatal.
> >> 
> >> Quoth Jonathan Swift: "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after 
> >> it.” In this case, the truth still hasn’t caught up after 21 years.
> >> 
> >> Rick
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:08 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> ... but I know there are medical professionals on the list who might know 
> >>> the answer.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm almost 70 years old, and I'm pretty sure I DID NOT receive the 
> >>> measles vaccine as a child. I had measles while I was in grade school 
> >>> *before* the vaccine became available. But all the stuff about measles in 
> >>> the news lately has me wondering ...
> >>> 
> >>> How long does immunity last after you've had measles?
> >>> 
> >>> Should I get a measles vaccination at this late date?
> >>> 
> >>> Is there a problem if you HAVE been previously vaccinated for measles (I 
> >>> got so damn many shots before I went to Iraq in 2004 that I don't 
> >>> remember what half of them were for)?

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