lol!  MIke - that happens to me sooo often!    as with when Ken told me about skunk's hind paws.
note to self and to you... SAVE THE LINK :-)

ann

On 3/10/2019 4:35 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Now I'll have to go and find whatever it was that I read.

On 09 March 2019 at 22:50 Rick Womer <[email protected]> wrote:


Mike,

I just re-read the 1998 paper and his 1999 follow-up letter. The point of both 
was a putative link between MMR vaccine and autism. There were signs of 
inflammation in some of his subjects’ colons, but no virus was recovered (or 
even sought.

Rick

On Mar 9, 2019, at 10:34 AM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:


On 09 March 2019 at 02:39 Rick Womer <[email protected]> wrote:


John,

My professional opinion as a pediatrician:

Having measles confers lifelong immunity. So does the measles vaccine.

The current measles outbreaks are the result of growing numbers of UNvaccinated 
children of “anti-vax” parents. This whole thing was started by a British 
physician, Andrew Wakefield, who published an utterly fraudulent paper in 1998 
(in The Lancet) linking the meals-mumps-rubella vaccine to autism. He then 
established a lucrative business as an expert witness for solicitors bringing 
suit against vaccine companies on behalf of the parents of autistic children.

Not to defend Wakefield or the antivaccination creed but I read his paper when 
it first came out.  What he actually said (paraphrased as I don't think I have 
a copy any more) was that his small sample found that the recognised autistic 
children in it had live measles virus in their gastrointestinal tract and that 
this needed to be investigated.  This finding was confirmed, iirc, by a much 
larger Japanese study some time later.

After the fraud was uncovered and the paper retracted, the General Medical 
Council struck him from the Register (revoked his medical license), which meant 
that he could no longer practice in the UK, any Commonwealth country, or the 
EU. So, he set up shop in Texas.

I was at Great Ormond Street Hospital in 1981-82, after a previous vaccine 
scare. I saw unvaccinated children have their cancer treatments much delayed 
because of tetanus and whooping cough—both of which are awful diseases to 
behold. The previous year there had been a case of measles in a child with 
leukemia. It was quickly fatal.

Quoth Jonathan Swift: "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it.” 
In this case, the truth still hasn’t caught up after 21 years.

Rick


On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:08 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:

... but I know there are medical professionals on the list who might know the 
answer.

I'm almost 70 years old, and I'm pretty sure I DID NOT receive the measles 
vaccine as a child. I had measles while I was in grade school *before* the 
vaccine became available. But all the stuff about measles in the news lately 
has me wondering ...

How long does immunity last after you've had measles?

Should I get a measles vaccination at this late date?

Is there a problem if you HAVE been previously vaccinated for measles (I got so 
damn many shots before I went to Iraq in 2004 that I don't remember what half 
of them were for)?

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