Indeed. It's becoming far too common with me recently. I've just reread the paper and it's made explicitly clear that no link was found between MMR and autism but mentions a planned virological study. I need to find that now.
> On 10 March 2019 at 15:06 ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > > lol! MIke - that happens to me sooo often! as with when Ken told me > about skunk's hind paws. > note to self and to you... SAVE THE LINK :-) > > ann > > On 3/10/2019 4:35 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > Now I'll have to go and find whatever it was that I read. > > > >> On 09 March 2019 at 22:50 Rick Womer <rickpic...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> I just re-read the 1998 paper and his 1999 follow-up letter. The point of > >> both was a putative link between MMR vaccine and autism. There were signs > >> of inflammation in some of his subjects’ colons, but no virus was > >> recovered (or even sought. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >>> On Mar 9, 2019, at 10:34 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 09 March 2019 at 02:39 Rick Womer <rickpic...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> John, > >>>> > >>>> My professional opinion as a pediatrician: > >>>> > >>>> Having measles confers lifelong immunity. So does the measles vaccine. > >>>> > >>>> The current measles outbreaks are the result of growing numbers of > >>>> UNvaccinated children of “anti-vax” parents. This whole thing was > >>>> started by a British physician, Andrew Wakefield, who published an > >>>> utterly fraudulent paper in 1998 (in The Lancet) linking the > >>>> meals-mumps-rubella vaccine to autism. He then established a lucrative > >>>> business as an expert witness for solicitors bringing suit against > >>>> vaccine companies on behalf of the parents of autistic children. > >>> > >>> Not to defend Wakefield or the antivaccination creed but I read his paper > >>> when it first came out. What he actually said (paraphrased as I don't > >>> think I have a copy any more) was that his small sample found that the > >>> recognised autistic children in it had live measles virus in their > >>> gastrointestinal tract and that this needed to be investigated. This > >>> finding was confirmed, iirc, by a much larger Japanese study some time > >>> later. > >>> > >>>> After the fraud was uncovered and the paper retracted, the General > >>>> Medical Council struck him from the Register (revoked his medical > >>>> license), which meant that he could no longer practice in the UK, any > >>>> Commonwealth country, or the EU. So, he set up shop in Texas. > >>>> > >>>> I was at Great Ormond Street Hospital in 1981-82, after a previous > >>>> vaccine scare. I saw unvaccinated children have their cancer treatments > >>>> much delayed because of tetanus and whooping cough—both of which are > >>>> awful diseases to behold. The previous year there had been a case of > >>>> measles in a child with leukemia. It was quickly fatal. > >>>> > >>>> Quoth Jonathan Swift: "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping > >>>> after it.” In this case, the truth still hasn’t caught up after 21 years. > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:08 PM, John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ... but I know there are medical professionals on the list who might > >>>>> know the answer. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm almost 70 years old, and I'm pretty sure I DID NOT receive the > >>>>> measles vaccine as a child. I had measles while I was in grade school > >>>>> *before* the vaccine became available. But all the stuff about measles > >>>>> in the news lately has me wondering ... > >>>>> > >>>>> How long does immunity last after you've had measles? > >>>>> > >>>>> Should I get a measles vaccination at this late date? > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there a problem if you HAVE been previously vaccinated for measles > >>>>> (I got so damn many shots before I went to Iraq in 2004 that I don't > >>>>> remember what half of them were for)? > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
