Canada produces huge oak timbers. Paul
> On Apr 20, 2019, at 7:30 PM, John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > In that case, where are they going to get the timbers they're going to need? > > Seems to me the "wasn't done that way when ND was constructed" argument is > going to apply to anything they might be able to do today, which means > they're left trying to find the least historically incorrect way of > rebuilding. > >> On 4/20/2019 02:28:20, mike wilson wrote: >> Glulam falls down (possibly literally) in the jointing. The whole point of >> using green oak is that the joints tighten up as the wood seasons in the >> building, reducing to neglibility the need for joint maintenance. The >> system works, as can be seen in the large number of buildings that are >> approaching a millenium in age. In contrast, the oldest glulam building is >> not even 200 years old. The biggest argument against it, however, is that >> it wasn't done that way when ND was constructed. >>> On 19 April 2019 at 04:49 John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glued_laminated_timber >>> >>> On 4/18/2019 03:46:33, Bob Pdml wrote: >>>>> I expect the oak will be replaced with some kind of engineered wood beams. >>>> >>>> >>>> That would be the architectural equivalent of this: >>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921 >>>> >>>> On the other hand it was the French who gave us post-modernism and a love >>>> of fragmentation and the simulacrum, so perhaps it's not a bad idea. >>>> >>>> Apparently a US researcher recently laser-scanned the whole thing, so >>>> maybe we could just 3D-print a new one, in resin made from harvested ocean >>>> plastic. >>>> >>>> https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/future-of-notre-dame >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>>> On 18 Apr 2019, at 01:00, John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It took 182 years to build it the first time, so if it takes longer than >>>>> 5 years for the repairs that's not such a big deal. >>>>> >>>>> Carpenters can be trained. If it takes 40 years to rebuild it, that's a >>>>> career. >>>>> >>>>> The oak might be another problem, but I expect the oak will be replaced >>>>> with some kind of engineered wood beams. Nor will it surprise me if >>>>> there's a lot of international support for the reconstruction. >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/17/2019 13:52:11, Bob Pdml wrote: >>>>>> French people are saying 'typical Macron, promising something when he >>>>>> has no idea whether it is possible or not'. One article i read suggests >>>>>> that it will take up to 40 years. The bishop has already said it will be >>>>>> closed for at least 5 or 6. >>>>>> One of the problems is that there aren't enough oak trees or carpenters >>>>>> with the right skills >>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2019, at 17:52, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks to all who commented or had a look. In the hours since this >>>>>>> tragedy it’s become obvious that the cathedral can be restored. I will >>>>>>> take year -- Macron says 5 years — but it will be worth the wait. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m catholic only by birth not by practice, but watching Notre Dame >>>>>>>> burn last night was crushing. I immediately recalled how I was >>>>>>>> overwhelmed by the majesty and history of this ancient cathedral when >>>>>>>> I visited it on a spring afternoon in 2003. Extending a business trip >>>>>>>> by a day, I wandered the streets of Paris with my Leica iiif RD and >>>>>>>> Summicron 50/2 Collapsible, alternately shooting tribute-x and Portra >>>>>>>> 400. I had the color neg film loaded when I stopped in the cathedral >>>>>>>> and captured a few images as best I could, given the faded mirror of >>>>>>>> my Leica and the dim lighting. Yesterday, I wondered what had become >>>>>>>> of those images. I found an envelope that contained the negatives and >>>>>>>> camera store prints and scanned a few of the negatives. Today, I >>>>>>>> assembled a small gallery. >>>>>>>> https://www.photo.net/gallery/1109648#//Sort-Newest/All-Categories/All-Time/Page-1 > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
