OK, FWIW,

I just put my negatives in a negative page, into the notebook and on the
shelf.  When I want a print I take the page or pages to the photofinisher
and voila, I get prints made.

 This even worked for some 18 year old TriX Pan negatives stored in old PVC
containing pages that were "lost".  They turned up when my mom cleaned her
garage (no heat, no air and a sometimes leaky roof). Got great prints from
them.

Digital is awfully convenient now but I think it lacks simple staying power
(archival wise). I think digital is most attractive in its ability to
complement (scan negatives) rather than replace film.

Just my two cents worth. :-)

Regards,

Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts


> >I do use CD-R for bulk generally non-critical data such as image or audio
> >files, but I do ensure that for best integrity I accrue a full CD worth
of
> >files before I write and close the disc in a single session. If I feel
the
> >files deserve more security I write a second copy of the data on a
different
> >brand of media just to be sure :-)
>
> I use both Zip disks and CDR for backup, further backed up by paper <g>.
>
> The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as
> email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a
> week and <touches wood> have never had a problem with any drive (we have
> three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files
> from one computer to another that one file  (a jpeg) had become
> corrupted, but as a test, I reformatted the Zip, copied again and it was
> fine. The Zips also get used as a little network. My printer is set up
> with a desktop Mac, so if I want to print something from the PowerBook,
> it goes across via Zip. One or two Zips get used several times a day, and
> aside from the above, it's always worked. These Zip disks are over two
> years old, and form a longevity test.
>
> The MacAds web site gets a full backup onto Zip after each change, which
> is usually twice a week, as well as put onto CD twice a year (more later).
>
> For photographs stored digitally, I keep a folder that acts as a 'waiting
> area' for pictures that have been scanned and optimised (and sometimes
> printed). When this fills up to a certain level, the oldest go onto a CDR
> in one go, one session. When the CDR is completed, it immediately gets
> tested by opening the files, making sure the pics open okay. I store each
> pic in native Photoshop format, seeing no reason to store compressed
> images given that CDRs are so cheap. After each such session, the
> original files on the Mac are deleted.
>
> It is my intention to re-copy each CD as it approaches 5 years of age,
> keeping all copies.
>
> I thought about getting a larger drive on the desktop, but it didn't
> strike me as a high priority. Also, I've got it working so well with the
> current drive, the OS, the whole shebang is very stable and I have maybe
> two crashes a year, and it's ALWAYS due to IE5 and a web session! (Blue
> and White G3 400, 512Mb/6Gb)
>
> All important info, especially passwords, are recorded in a small
> hardback notebook. This is probably the most invaluable of all. Ever log
> onto a website and can't remember the password? Every day with me. That
> little notebook shuffles in and out of its place on the shelf next to me
> more than I would ever have thought. Also in there are all the silly
> little settings and values for things like ISP diallup info, connection
> info, TCP/IP info, helplines, etc etc. I saw a colleague do it some years
> ago, and I remarked how simple and straightforward it was.
>
> Finally, about twice a year, the whole hard drive gets backed up onto
> CDRs. This includes a stripped down version so that with one single CD, I
> can get a freshly reformatted hard drive up and running (say in the event
> of a catastrophic crash, or a new drive) with all my bits and bobs
> appearing just how I like them, and relevant applications on call. [For
> those on PC and who may not know, Macs are heavily customisable, and no
> two are identical in terms of how they appear and work to the user. Some
> are so heavily customised that sitting in front of one, it might take a
> minute or two to find my way around!] If necessary, I could travel around
> the world with a CD and two Zips, borrow a Mac, and carry on with MacAds
> as if nothing had happened.
>
> Regarding the integrity or not of various back-up methods, I think the
> only serious criteria for informing an individual's decision on what to
> use tend to be personal experience and recommendation. I had heard a lot
> about Zips and the 'clicks of death', but having used 4 different Zip
> drives and dozens of disks since 1998, I have never come across it. The
> point is, if it works, I suppose one keeps using it until it doesn't,
> then one does some more research and either carries on with the same
> method, or changes to another. Personally I have never been bothered by
> the seeming volatility of the various ways of storing data digitally, but
> then again, what do I know? I'm just a user <g>.
>
> HTH
>
> Cotty
>
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