Thank you Robert.
I only recently got involved with digital by buying a camera, an Epson, off
of eBay.  I now find myself realizing that I need to get more
memory/software/equipment in order to do digital justice.  I have decided to
use it sparingly and just devote myself to film like I did before.  I won't
be hopping on the bandwagon wanting a Pentax digital SLR like others.

Jim A.

> From: "Robert Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:18:02 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
> 
> OK, FWIW,
> 
> I just put my negatives in a negative page, into the notebook and on the
> shelf.  When I want a print I take the page or pages to the photofinisher
> and voila, I get prints made.
> 
> This even worked for some 18 year old TriX Pan negatives stored in old PVC
> containing pages that were "lost".  They turned up when my mom cleaned her
> garage (no heat, no air and a sometimes leaky roof). Got great prints from
> them.
> 
> Digital is awfully convenient now but I think it lacks simple staying power
> (archival wise). I think digital is most attractive in its ability to
> complement (scan negatives) rather than replace film.
> 
> Just my two cents worth. :-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 3:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Digital doubts
> 
> 
>>> I do use CD-R for bulk generally non-critical data such as image or audio
>>> files, but I do ensure that for best integrity I accrue a full CD worth
> of
>>> files before I write and close the disc in a single session. If I feel
> the
>>> files deserve more security I write a second copy of the data on a
> different
>>> brand of media just to be sure :-)
>> 
>> I use both Zip disks and CDR for backup, further backed up by paper <g>.
>> 
>> The Zips get used for things that change on a day-to-day basis such as
>> email files and Internet Explorer files. I back these up about once a
>> week and <touches wood> have never had a problem with any drive (we have
>> three) or disk. I did notice once that when I was transferring some files
>> from one computer to another that one file  (a jpeg) had become
>> corrupted, but as a test, I reformatted the Zip, copied again and it was
>> fine. The Zips also get used as a little network. My printer is set up
>> with a desktop Mac, so if I want to print something from the PowerBook,
>> it goes across via Zip. One or two Zips get used several times a day, and
>> aside from the above, it's always worked. These Zip disks are over two
>> years old, and form a longevity test.
>> 
>> The MacAds web site gets a full backup onto Zip after each change, which
>> is usually twice a week, as well as put onto CD twice a year (more later).
>> 
>> For photographs stored digitally, I keep a folder that acts as a 'waiting
>> area' for pictures that have been scanned and optimised (and sometimes
>> printed). When this fills up to a certain level, the oldest go onto a CDR
>> in one go, one session. When the CDR is completed, it immediately gets
>> tested by opening the files, making sure the pics open okay. I store each
>> pic in native Photoshop format, seeing no reason to store compressed
>> images given that CDRs are so cheap. After each such session, the
>> original files on the Mac are deleted.
>> 
>> It is my intention to re-copy each CD as it approaches 5 years of age,
>> keeping all copies.
>> 
>> I thought about getting a larger drive on the desktop, but it didn't
>> strike me as a high priority. Also, I've got it working so well with the
>> current drive, the OS, the whole shebang is very stable and I have maybe
>> two crashes a year, and it's ALWAYS due to IE5 and a web session! (Blue
>> and White G3 400, 512Mb/6Gb)
>> 
>> All important info, especially passwords, are recorded in a small
>> hardback notebook. This is probably the most invaluable of all. Ever log
>> onto a website and can't remember the password? Every day with me. That
>> little notebook shuffles in and out of its place on the shelf next to me
>> more than I would ever have thought. Also in there are all the silly
>> little settings and values for things like ISP diallup info, connection
>> info, TCP/IP info, helplines, etc etc. I saw a colleague do it some years
>> ago, and I remarked how simple and straightforward it was.
>> 
>> Finally, about twice a year, the whole hard drive gets backed up onto
>> CDRs. This includes a stripped down version so that with one single CD, I
>> can get a freshly reformatted hard drive up and running (say in the event
>> of a catastrophic crash, or a new drive) with all my bits and bobs
>> appearing just how I like them, and relevant applications on call. [For
>> those on PC and who may not know, Macs are heavily customisable, and no
>> two are identical in terms of how they appear and work to the user. Some
>> are so heavily customised that sitting in front of one, it might take a
>> minute or two to find my way around!] If necessary, I could travel around
>> the world with a CD and two Zips, borrow a Mac, and carry on with MacAds
>> as if nothing had happened.
>> 
>> Regarding the integrity or not of various back-up methods, I think the
>> only serious criteria for informing an individual's decision on what to
>> use tend to be personal experience and recommendation. I had heard a lot
>> about Zips and the 'clicks of death', but having used 4 different Zip
>> drives and dozens of disks since 1998, I have never come across it. The
>> point is, if it works, I suppose one keeps using it until it doesn't,
>> then one does some more research and either carries on with the same
>> method, or changes to another. Personally I have never been bothered by
>> the seeming volatility of the various ways of storing data digitally, but
>> then again, what do I know? I'm just a user <g>.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Cotty
>> 
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