Some of the older models don't, (no Pentax cameras that I am aware of),
the manufactures supplied a cardboard insert that put a false leader with a
small gap where the sprocket would sit to fool the camera into thinking it
was loaded.

At 04:20 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>NO NO NO.  Your camera fires even if there is no film in it.  This
>avoids the great problems of trying to convince it the film has wound
>successfully.  Have you never tested a camera in a shop without film in?
>The shutter still fires.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 September 2002 16:19
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
> >
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > The only way I can see that they can convince a film camera
> > that it can fire is to convince it that there _is_ film
> > there.  With all the Pentax models I've seen, that means
> > using a mechanical method to fool it into thinking that.
> > With others that use LEDs, the solution is much simpler.
> >
> > m
> >
> >

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