Don

As Jun mentioned you have to use the paste special.  I have used it on multilayer 
designs.  

Mike Reagan
EDSI Frederick MD

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Subject: Re: [PEDA] how to merge three PCB to one


The cut & 'paste special' method works well with 2 layers but seemed to 
stumble with connectivity on the inner planes on 4 layers.  Or did I 
just flub something...  Otherwise this means much more use of camtastic 
as our fab has a great deal on multi-layer if you supply work as a panel 
that they don't have to mess with (much).

Cheers

Don


Dennis Saputelli wrote:
> this comes up all the time
> 
> we use your method #1 almost every day with no troubles
> 
> using this method you also get full DRC checking as well
> whereas if you use the paste special method you do not
> 
> don't forget that not only is pcb cost lower but overall
> handling and assembly costs are lower (assuming the boards are used as a 
> 'set' which is what we do)
> 
> something you have to think about however is how you are going to 
> singulate the boards
> as you get into tab routing, mouse bites and other features which may 
> not otherwise be needed you start to erode a bit of the benefit
> 
> we have been scoring some of these things lately
> before you say it is crummy method please realize that scoring has come 
> a long way in the last decade just like the rest of pcb fab tech
> 
> they can now do jump (or skip) scoring, hold accuracy to maybe 10 thou 
> and other stuff
> for todays NC scoring machines due to FR4 fringing leave 20 thou (mils) 
> min between the score line and the edge of an outer trace or Cu
> 
> 40 is probably a smarter choice so that is one down side to scoring
> 
> nominal score depth s.b. 1/3 T from each side
> 
> this varies with how big a piece you have to grab though (leverage)
> narrow breakoffs need to be scored deeper
> very heavy big bds with a score in the middle may be scored less deeply
> 
> also there are stresses to consider during the singulation whatever 
> method is used
> 
> if the board has slots or routing operations anyway then maybe drop a 
> few obrounds in the scored areas to reduce the stresses of the 
> singulation process
> 
> also the edges will not be extacly pristine but may be suitable for many 
> purposes and don't have to be cleaned up like the tab & mouse bite routine
> 
> Dennis Saputelli
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> é wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have three small PCB and I want to merge them to one PCB in order to 
>> decrease the cost. I am thinking about two method as following but 
>> either has demerit. Could you please give me some advice?
>>
>> (1) Design the three PCB in one project. But the designator name 
>> cannot repeat so I must name the parts of the1st PCB from "U1" to "U5" 
>> then the 2nd PCB from U6 to U10 (for example) and so on.
>>
>> (2) Design the three PCB in three projects. But when I output the 
>> three gerber data files I cannot merge them into one gerber data file.
>>
>> Thank you for any advice.
>>
>>
>>
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