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> If your only hurdle to P2004 is the query language, then I 
> suggest you just get used to it.

Jason

Exactly the attitude Altium took.

There are genuine people out here who cannot get there heads round the query 
language enough to make
it natural for them, if it cannot become a natural trained response then it 
becomes counter
productive.

For anyone who has not been used to working with code at any time it will 
always be so. 

Trying to force the customer to change to fit the tools / vendors is actually, 
to be frank, nuts.
Look at the time it has been around and it still scares people who look at it. 

If this one KEY tool in using P2004 cannot become natural and easy to use then 
it is a feature that
fails the whole tool chain and any other benefits which rely on it (pretty much 
everything).

I include myself in this group, every day I use DXP and have to do something 
that was a natural,
trained, instinctive process in 99SE and have to make up a query for it I need 
to think hard about
this, construct it, test it, check it and if need be debug it and do it again 
(very common iterative
process). 

I do not have to write a macro in MS word to do a simple thing like select 
text, and make only that
text bold, I have buttons to do it, a graphical process, much easier for the 
eye/mind to recognise
and process. No text to type, no parenthesis to worry about, no syntax to worry 
about....  

Getting the right query is sometimes the type of iterative process I would 
expect in software
development, or VHDL development where the expected behaviour is to construct, 
test, debug and back
round again.

This however should NOT put anyone off DXP, when it comes to the query language 
and getting used to
it and making it natural to use, well, I must just be extremely stupid and dumb 
compared to the
other 99.9999% of DXP.

It does have its benefits, in odd occasions and it is a feature I would NOT 
like to see disappear
from DXP and be entirely replaced by 99SE method & 99SE query manager, but I 
can account, in terms
of real time, how much pain using the query language directly, instead of a 
wrapper, costs me.

This is only one mans opinion, mine, I guess, it is also not a direct attack on 
your post, it . 

John


 
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