> Makes me wonder how consumer electronics people lay their single sided
> phonic PCB's out with soo many jumpers ;)

As a hobby, I occasionally repair/restore consumer electronics. From most consumer electronics SS PCB's I've seen, I'd say that they are hand-drawn. No PCB CAD program I know of would generate such odd shapes for copper regions. Everything in consumer electronics is optimized to be cheap, cheap, cheap. Even to the point of leaving as much copper on the PCB as possible, to reduce copper contamination of the etchant.

Perhaps Protel should work on a SS design feature that would let you designate one side of the board as jumper tracks only. A design rule could be added to control jumper length increments and jumper wire guage. After routing, the number, guage, and length of jumpers would automatically be added to the BOM. And also maybe a bezier curve hugging algorithm for routing tracks and pouring copper on the copper side - this would give it that hand-drawn look and save etchant.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


Kathy Quinlan wrote:
Website Visitor wrote:

I want to auto-route a pcb in PROTEL ,on which there will be routing only at bottom layer and jumpers on the top layer, but i want to have only straight jumpers,horizental or vertical both are acceptable, so how i can do it, i am using protel-99-sec edition, please guide me.
my email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


thanks


OK after having worked with Protel for over 15 Years now (I started on the autotrax layout for DOS (hmmm I am showing my age). And having alot of LOW END customers who could not afford DS with PTH, I have found the only way to route these boards is BY HAND (hell I route all my boards by hand as it is easier, quicker and less problematic than setting up the auto router (maybe I am too old fashion))

I find 2 styles of jumpers get used the most, one is a wire link (which I do with a via each end and a trace on top (with lots of fab notes so that the factory does not try to make DS boards) or I place 0R TH resistors. A 0.4inch resistor can clear a fair few traces, esp if you use an orthogonal pad with the longer axis parallel to the traces you are jumping.

The reason I prefer resistors, is that it allows Protel to SEGMENT things like power nets, this makes fault finding easier at a later date, as you know if you remove resistor 101 that VCC is now VCC A-E and VCC F-H, if the short is on the later segment etc you can narrow down without having to remove lots of components (hmmm I think I am paranoid from having too many tantalums go short on old designs.....

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Those were the days good ol' Z80 S100 buss systems with a great handful of 10uF 6.3V tag tants all over the place.....

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Short side is no for auto router, but yes you can do it yourself :)


Makes me wonder how consumer electronics people lay their single sided phonic PCB's out with soo many jumpers ;)

Regards,

Kat.


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