Jeffrey, List,

Let me put it this way:

Here are your two hypotheses:
1. The bread changes form without changing sensible effects.
2. The bread doesn’t change in form.

What could possibly be the difference in one’s understanding of these? An answer “I don’t know” does not necessarily mean “nothing” because a person’s understanding of anything can range from the obvious to the occult. The difference in understandings might be too subtle to be readily explained, but according to Peircian optimism with enough time and persistent inquiry a real difference would be fleshed out.

Matt

On 5/1/14, 2:58 PM, Matt Faunce wrote:
On 4/30/14, 5:52 PM, Jeffrey Brian Downard wrote:
Real difference requires two things: a conceivable test that could be run, and an observable difference we would expect to see.

Real difference means there is a potential test which would show this difference. If inquiry lasts long enough the test will become conceivable then executable, but in the mean time any real difference is having its so far unconfirmable effect.

With no positive test results there is no reason to believe there is a difference except for the reason of pure hope, i.e., James's Will to Believe. But what drives this will? Is it the same thing that makes abductions correct more often than chance allows?

Saying "With no positive test results there is no reason to believe," appears, on its surface, very rough and shoddy to me. Well before a concrete peer-reviewable test is run the inquirer runs many deductions and inductions in his head. These proto-tests, filling up a whole spectrum ranging from the obvious, those at the fore-front of the mind, to the occult, those way at the back of the mind, are all assessed by the person and guide his actions.

So, does this potential test need to be so obvious that it can potentially be peer reviewable? Or, are its results sufficient even if its greatest possibility is that it can only reside in the occult end of our reasoning?

(I had the Peirce-Jastrow experiment in the back of my mind while writing this. Maybe there's potential to use their conclusions to support or detract from my point.)

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