As an added comment, regarding the order, Peirce wrote: 'the Dynamoid Object 
determines the Immediate Object which determines the Sign itself, which 
determines the Destinate Interpretant which determines the Effective 
Interpretant which determines the Explcit Interpretant.  Letter Dec 23, 1908.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon Alan Schmidt 
  To: Edwina Taborsky 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Order of Interpretant Trichotomies for Sign Classes


  Edwina, List:


  You evidently misunderstood what I was indicating, which is probably my fault 
for not being clear.  I was only listing the six trichotomies that come AFTER 
the first four, which are Od > Oi > S > (S-Od).  Including all ten this time ...


  (a)  Od > Oi > S > (S-Od) > If > Id > Ii > (S-If) > (S-Id) > (S-Od-If).
  (b)  Od > Oi > S > (S-Od) > If > (S-If) > Id > (S-Id) > Ii > (S-Od-If).
  (c)  Od > Oi > S > (S-Od) > (S-Od-If) > (S-If) > If > (S-Id) > Id > Ii.


  I also forgot to mention that (a), unlike (b) and (c), is consistent with T. 
L. Short's assertion on page 253 of Peirce's Theory of Signs (2007) that Ii > 
(S-If) > (S-Id) is the only workable order for those three trichotomies.  He 
even provided illustrative examples to support this claim, as follows.


  1 > 1 > 1 = qualitative/hypothetic, term/rheme/seme, presented/suggestive = 
any work of art so far as ‘pure.’
  2 > 1 > 1 = experiental/categorical, term/rheme/seme, presented/suggestive = 
pokes in the back, pointings.
  2 > 2 > 1 = experiental/categorical, proposition/dicent/pheme, 
presented/suggestive = questions.
  2 > 2 > 2 = experiental/categorical, proposition/dicent/pheme, 
urged/imperative = commands, moral imperatives.
  3 > 1 > 1 = logical/relative, term/rheme/seme, presented/suggestive = nouns, 
verbs, adjectives, adverbs.
  3 > 2 > 1 = logical/relative, proposition/dicent/pheme, presented/suggestive 
= hypotheses, proposed plans.
  3 > 2 > 2 = logical/relative, proposition/dicent/pheme, urged/imperative = 
assertions.
  3 > 3 > 1 = logical/relative, argument/delome, presented/suggestive = the 
presentation of an argument.
  3 > 3 > 2 = logical/relative, argument/delome, urged/imperative = the urging 
of an argument.
  3 > 3 > 3 = logical/relative, argument/delome, submitted/indicative = the 
submission of an argument.


  Qualitative, experiential, and logical are my shorthand for Peirce's division 
of signs based on the immediate interpretant as given at 
CP8.339--"interpretable in qualities of feeling or experience," "interpretable 
in actual experiences," "interpretable in thoughts or other signs of the same 
kind in infinite series."  Presented, urged, and submitted come from CP8.338, 
which is also where Peirce clearly indicates that (S-If) > (S-Id).  "According 
to my present view, a sign may appeal to its dynamic interpretant in three 
ways:  1st, an argument only may be submitted to its interpretant, as something 
the reasonableness of which will be acknowledged.  2nd, an argument or dicent 
may be urged upon the interpretant by an act of insistence.  3rd, argument or 
dicent may be, and a rheme can only be, presented to the interpretant for 
contemplation."


  Regards,


  Jon


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