List,

Cary Campbell posted this in the blog of the Semiotic Research Group. He
points to an article by Mihai Nadin, "Reassessing the Foundations of
Semiotics: Preliminaries."

http://www.nadin.ws/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/nadin-article_ijsss-22.pdf

[Campbell] I have never come across a text that better lays out the
deplorable failure of semiotics (and semioticians) then this paper by Mihai
Nadin. According to Nadin semiotics as it becomes a more and more
cloistered and insular discipline has missed out on making important
contributions to disciplines where a semiotic perspective would be
extremely enriching. Disciplines such as Human computer Interaction, AI,
nanotechnology, computer science generally, stem cell research, genetics,
etc… He asks the important question; would Peirce, or Hjemslev, or even
Barthes miss the opportunity to approach these important subjects?


“In other words, there is proof that semiotics can do better than indulge
in useless speculative language games as it does in our time. What I
suggest is that specialization is a necessary condition for the progress of
science. But not sufficient!
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Specialists --- and there are more and more of them --- ought to relate
their discoveries to other fields, to build bridges. For this they need
semiotics as an integral part of their way of thinking, as a technique of
expression, and as a communication guide.”


He locates much of this failure in semiotic’s perpetual obsession with
centering the discipline on the sign model.

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“Semiotics, if founded not around the sign concept --- quite counter
intuitive when it comes to language (where is the sign: the alphabet, the
word, the sentence?) --- but with the understanding of the interactions
language make possible, would contribute more than descriptions, usually of
no consequence to anyone, and post facto explanations.”


I really believe this is a must read for anyone who sees value in the
semiotic world view and the future of the discipline.

I have not yet completed the article, but find its premise intriguing. It
seems clear enough, and I agree with Nadin that "Specialists [. . .] ought
to relate their discoveries to other fields, to build bridges. For this
they need semiotics as an integral part of their way of thinking, as a
technique of expression, and as a communication guide.”

On the other hand I'm not sure that I can agree with him that "
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“Semiotics [should be founded] not around the sign concept [. . .] but with
the understanding of the interactions language make possible.

Wouldn't his apparent deemphasis of "the sign concept" in favor of "the
understanding of the interactions language make possible" tend to
contradict Peirce's powerful notion that semiotics ought *not* be language
based?

I'm wondering what others on the list may think of Nadin's argument. Here
is the abstract of the paper linked to above.

ABSTRACT What justifies a discipline is its grounding in practical
activities. Documentary evidence is a necessary, but not sufficient,
condition for viability. This applies to semiotics as it applies to
mathematics, physics, chemistry, computer science, and all other forms of
questioning the world. While all forms of knowledge testify to the
circularity of the epistemological effort, semiotics knowledge is doubly
cursed. There is no knowledge that can be expressed otherwise than in
semiotic form; knowledge of semiotics is itself expressed semiotically.
Semiotics defined around the notion of the sign bears the burden of
unsettled questions prompted by the never-ending attempt to define signs.
This indeterminate condition is characteristic of all epistemological
constructs, whether in reference to specific knowledge domains or
semiotics. The alternative is to associate the knowledge domain of
semiotics with the meta-level, i.e., inquiry of what makes semiotics
necessary. In a world of action-reaction, corresponding to a rather poor
form of causality, semiotics is not necessary. Only in acknowledging the
anticipatory condition of the living can grounding for semiotics be found.
This perspective becomes critical in the context of a semiotized
civilization in which the object level of human effort is progressively
replaced by representations (and their associated interpretations).


I've been traveling, and am now preparing for yet more travel beginning
this weekend, but I'll try to complete the Nadin article this week if
anyone here is interested in discussing it.

Best,

Gary




[image: Gary Richmond]

*Gary Richmond*
*Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
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