This can’t be correct, Sung, since you don’t distinguish between ‘exists’ (you use it improperly) and ‘is real’. Firsts are real, but they don’t exist. Seconds exist (and are real). Thirds are real, and may have a mode of existence through seconds.
John Collier Professor Emeritus, UKZN http://web.ncf.ca/collier From: sji.confor...@gmail.com [mailto:sji.confor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sungchul Ji Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2015 11:56 PM To: PEIRCE-L Cc: biosemiotics; Sergey Petoukhov; Auletta Gennaro; Ed Dellian; Robert E. Ulanowicz; Mark Burgin Subject: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: signs, correlates, and triadic relations [John Collier] snip … "First determines Second and Second determines Third, or Third (112915-3) cannot exist without Second and Second cannot exist without First." We may refer to (112915-3) as the ontological constraint. By the same token, we may refer to the second column as the epistemological constraint, and the Peircean selection selection rule,(112915-2), that governs the interior elements of Table 1 and Figure 1 as the 'onto-epistemological' constraint. [John Collier] Once again you have Peirce wrong, and miss much of the subtlety of his views. First you mess up the ontology, and then you make epistemological claims about things that are not necessarily dependent on mind, let alone knowledge. Whatever the system behind you numerology it has little to do with Peirce, and if it happens to, it is by accident. Normally I just delete your posts without reading them because they are so careless and I don't need the noise, but this one was such a mess, and so misleading, that I had to show how it was basically and irretrievably wrong. You are very clever, but your wit is mostly wasted. That is a shame. John
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