Kirsti, John FS, list,
Generally, concerns about appropriateness of others' messages should be
addressed off-list to the manager and moderator Gary Richmond, and
Kirsti may have already attempted that. Unfortunately, Gary is traveling
and won't be back online till the second week of January. For what it's
worth, it seems to me (the co-manager) that the current discussion has
not yet departed too far and too long from Peirce-related issues. I'd
suggest that people not get into an argument about the matter at the
present time, and that they refresh their memories of pertinent sections
of list founder Joseph Ransdell's discussion "How the Forum Works".
*What is relevant to post and discuss here?*
http://www.iupui.edu/%7Earisbe/PEIRCE-L/PEIRCE-L.HTM#relevance
Since PEIRCE-L is best thought of as a public forum, which is
primarily a place rather than a discussion group, people contribute
or not as they think best, and come and go freely, as is taken for
granted in public forums wherever they occur. There is no standing
agenda except the promotion of philosophical conversation of the
sort which one would expect from people with a special interest in
Peirce and of other communication in support of that. Thus
discussion should be Peirce-related but not necessarily on Peirce,
and the working test for relevance would simply be a plausible
explanation of why the topic in question should be under discussion
on a list called "PEIRCE-L: The Philosophy of Charles Peirce", given
that people subscribe to such lists with some more or less definite
expectations about subject-matter in mind.
[End quote]
*Caveat about correcting others*
http://www.iupui.edu/%7Earisbe/PEIRCE-L/PEIRCE-L.HTM#correction-caveat
It is expected that criticism will be vigorous and diligently
pursued: philosophy is understood here to be essentially a
critically directed and self-controlled conversation. But there is
one important caveat in this connection: If you feel that some
messages being posted are not to the purpose of the list or that
there is something someone is doing which should be discouraged, do
NOT attempt to rectify that yourself by posting a message to that
effect to the list in general. Because there is so little overt or
formal moderation by the list manager, it is natural to suppose that
the individual members can and should take that role as needed. But
this rarely if ever produces the effect intended, regardless of how
reasonable it may seem at a particular time. Contact me instead
off-list and we will see what can or should be done, if anything,
without generating a chain reaction of protests and
counter-protests, which are the typical result of attempting to
rectify the problem on-list.
[End quote]
*Why the list manager should do the correcting*
http://www.iupui.edu/%7Earisbe/PEIRCE-L/PEIRCE-L.HTM#manager-corrects
Should you contact the person yourself first, off-list, in an
attempt to rectify their way of participating rather than bothering
me with it? Although you do of course have a right—professional,
moral, legal, whatever—to do this, and it may seem best to you, let
me urge you to contact me first, nonetheless, unless there is some
truly special and urgent reason to the contrary. There are several
reasons for this:
[.... End quote]
Best, Ben
On 12/31/2016 11:20 AM, John F Sowa wrote:
On 12/31/2016 10:43 AM, kirst...@saunalahti.fi wrote:
Is this list about the philosophy of Peirce any more? - Or does
CSP only serve as a starting point to presenting any kinds of
ideas loosely connected with CSP?
Those are good questions.
I believe that it's important to relate CSP's writings to
critical issues today -- along the lines that he might have
done it he had access to the latest news and discoveries.
But it's always important to be quote, cite, or summarize
what Peirce actually wrote and to make the implicit connections
explicit.
John
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