Stephen,
In teh main, I agree. But I do not think they, either one, were in any
way "voting FOR" anything, not for religion or anything any individual
may choose. They were both making systematic observations on truth & the
methodical ways of approaching a true understanding of what is real.
It was in his early work (Tractatus) that Wittgenstein came into the
conclusion that what cannot be said, is best left unsaid. Left into
silence to convey. - Wittgenstein really did not write philosophy for
years and years to come. - But then he started to write philosphical
notes again. Published in the form of Philosphische Untersuchungen -
Philosphical Investigations.
I find it most important that it was published as a bi-lingual edition,
both in German and in English. He expressed his ideas in two languages.
Both he was fluent with.
I have discussed on the experience of meeting Wittgenstein in his
lectures with a cousin of G.H. von Wright, the editor and publisher of
Wittgensteins work, Johan von Wright. (I used to work with him).
He described the experience of attending Wittgenstein's lecture a highly
awesome experience. The moment he entered the room was as if the whole
atmosphere were electrified in a second.
I have met Georg von Wright many times and discussed with him, too. He
kept up close contact with students while he was a professor at the
department of philosphy at Helsinki University. He was a figure with
authority by just being present. But not comparable with Wittgenstein. -
I lost many opportunities to discussions with him on Wittgenstein. To my
deep regret later on.
But Georg von Wright and Anscombe, who were left with the legacy of
Wittgenstein, that is to publish OR leave unpublished his writings,
chose not to publish everything.
What was left out, were essential notes (in my judgement) in the
philosphy of mathematics these two decided that "the time" is not ready
for bringing out all.
So, what we now have available has been deliberately cut down. The most
radical conclusions (on math) have been omitted.
How come Wittgenstein's latest conclusions on mathematics was so
important to cut out? What could have been so dangerous?
This is a question I wish to pose to list members.
Especially to Jerry and John.
Best, Kirsti
Stephen C. Rose kirjoitti 5.2.2017 22:26:
Peirce is said to be a superficial and less than apt theologian. Not
one of the things he is cited for. I think he and Wittgenstein are
peas in a pod right down to their common reliance on, and iconoclasm
toward, the natural sciences. It was Wittgenstein who noted the
difficulty of dealing with what I have for years called the realm of
mystery and supposition.He called it nonsense in a positive way. And I
agree with those who say his reason was to protect ethics and
religion.
As one with theological training who has gone far toward
reconstructing a theology outside the camp, there being no antidote to
banishment for career decisions such as fighting for reparations in
the 60s and favoring Saul Alinsky, I think Peirce has made THE
fundamental contribution needed not only for religion but for the
world generally. That is triadic thinking understood as a means of
making the unspeakable sayable and normative.
I have had no access to circles within the Peirce community and have
been excluded and skewered by some for whatever reason. But I do want
to make this point about Peirce and Wittgenstein. Though neither man
was a theologian, together they are the future of any universal and
nonviolent and ethically advanced religious thinking. The simplest way
to say this is to say that binary thinking in any form when applied
to Wittgenstein's unsayable is anathema to progress while triadic
thinking is the key to progress.
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