I am not very keen on multiple universes, though I readily admit different metaphysical categories. But I think any deep difference is just talk.
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 30 March 2017 3:33 PM To: John Collier <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] semantic problem with the term John C., List: [John Collier] Peirce uses “sign” in both ways, which can be confusing. Perhaps I missed them, but I am not aware of any passages where Peirce used "sign" to mean a "triad" or a "triadic function" that consists of the representamen, object, and interpretant. If there are such passages, I would be grateful for the citations so that I can take a look at them. Would you at least agree that Peirce predominantly used "sign" in the way that I am advocating? [John Collier] I think the following undated passage in which Peirce refers to the sign as the most characteristic form of thirdness is hard to understand if the sign meant here is the representamen alone. It is essential to being a sign that it have an object and interpretant. I take this as meaning that it is part of their nature to be triadic. I agree that Peirce mostly used “sign” to mean the iconic representamen. This issue was discussed on the list some time ago. Firstness, Secondness, Thirdness, and the Reducibility of Fourthness [R] | MS [R] 914:5-6 The most characteristic form of thirdness is that of a sign; and it is shown that every cognition is of the nature of a sign. Every sign has an object, which may be regarded either as it is immediately represented in the sign to be [or] as it is in it own firstness. It is equally essential to the function of a sign that it should determine an Interpretant, or second correlate related to the object of the sign as the sign is itself related to that object; and this interpretant may be regarded as the sign represents it to be, as it is in its pure secondness to the object, and as it is in its own firstness. Upon these considerations are founded six trichotomic divisions of signs… John Collier Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal http://web.ncf.ca/collier
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