Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Did Peirce Anticipate the Space-Time Continuum?

Fri, 19 May 2017 11:29:05 -0700

Gary, List,

Please thank Fernando for his suggestion. The entire volume seems to have some unique perspectives on Peirce; I will try to obtain a copy of the entire book.

I found the Sfendoni-Mentzou piece very thought provoking. I note he thanks Nicolaidis (spelled Nikolaidis), the source of the original paper that started this thread, who was a colleague at the same institution. I'm still wondering how widely these views were held.

Thanks!

Mike

On 5/15/2017 11:24 AM, Gary Richmond wrote:
Mike, Jon, List, 

I asked Fernando Zalamea--my go-to scholar for questions regarding mathematical continutiy--and, while he noted that physics is not at all his field, he responded by writing (in part):

FZ: I imagine that the Proceedings of the Harvard Sesquicentennial dedicated to Peirce’s Physics may have clues.

[note: for the Proceedings, see; http://catalogue.wellcomelibrary.org/search~S8?/aCharles+S.+Peirce+Sesquicentennial+International+Congress+%281989+%3A+Harvard+University%29/acharles+s+peirce+sesquicentennial+international+congress+++++1989+harvard+university/-3,-1,0,B/browse

for the contents of papers selected by Matthew Moore from the Proceedings see,  http://catalogue.wellcomelibrary.org/record=b1023422 

One paper in that collection by D. Sfendoni-Mentzou has the intriguing title, The role of potentiality in Peirce's tychism and in contemporary discussions in quantum mechanics and microphysics ; see: http://www.academia.edu/20431455/THE_ROLE_OF_POTENTIALITY_IN_PEIRCES_TYCHISM_AND_IN_CONTEMPORARY_DISCUSSIONS_IN_QUANTUM_MECHANICS_AND_MICROPHYSICS GR]

FZ: On the other hand, as far as I know, relational logic is far from quantum logic. This second trend originates with von Neumann's Continuous Geometries and orthomodular lattices, something that, I think, Peirce could not envision. (emphasis added)

I have not yet read the paper you pointed to Mike (I intend to), but although I have sometimes thought otherwise (based principally on a readong of the 1898 lecture series, published as Reasoning and the Logic of Things), I would at present  temd tp agree with Zalamea here.

And I  agree with the whole of Jon Awbrey's post leading to his conclusion:

JA:  I think the full import of [Peirce's] on-theoretic and
pragmatic-semiotic approaches to scientific inquiry is a task for the future to
work out.

Best,

Gary R


Gary Richmond

Gary Richmond
Philosophy and Critical Thinking
Communication Studies
LaGuardia College of the City University of New York
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On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]> wrote:
Mike, List,

The mathematical perspectives and theories that made modern physics possible,
perhaps even inevitable, were developed by many mathematicians, both abstract
and applied, all throughout the 19th Century.  There was a definite sea change
in the way scientists began to view the relationship between mathematical models
and the physical world, passing from a monolithic concept to variational choices
among multiple approaches, models, perspectives, and theories.

Peirce was an astute observer and active participant in this transformation but
it has always been difficult to trace his true impact on its course — so much of
what he contributed operated underground, rhizome like, and without recognition.
But I think it's fair to say that Peirce articulated the springs and catches of
the workings of science better than any other reflective practitioner in his or
subsequent times.  And I think the full import of his information-theoretic and
pragmatic-semiotic approaches to scientific inquiry is a task for the future to
work out.

Regards,

Jon


On 5/14/2017 1:34 AM, Mike Bergman wrote:
I just encountered this assertion:

"In the present work we have indicated that a form of logic, relational logic
developed by C. S. Peirce, may serve as the foundation of both quantum mechanics
and string theory." [1]

Does the list have any comments, further references or criticisms on this pretty
bold statement?

Thanks, Mike

[1] A. Nicolaidis, 2008. "Categorical Foundation of Quantum Mechanics and String
Theory," arXiv:0812.1946, 10 Dec 2008. See https://arxiv.org/pdf/0812.1946.pdf


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