Jerry: I am quite aware of your post and don't need to re-read it.
I'm not sure what you mean by "your response with its conjectures
that give a hint as to the identity your character' means - but it
sounds rather insulting and out of line on this thread.
There is no room for compassion in semiotics. Just as there is no
room for hatred, anger, lust and so on.. in semiotics.
Semiotics is a logical process of reality and existence. There may
definitely be, within this semiotic action, the feeling of compassion
or the feeling of anger - but that is part of the semiosic triad,
where, for example: An expression of emotion...is mediated by
knowledge...to be interpreted as a feeling of compassion. But the
logical triad does not operate by compassion but by reason.
Again - that was not the original question - which was whether
semiotics could be used to compare war-refugees with the Holy Family
as refugee. The emotion of compassion was not in the question.
Edwina
On Thu 28/12/17 2:54 PM , Jerry LR Chandler
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Edwinia:
Please re-read my post.
It simply states two parallel sentences.
Does your response, with its conjectures that give a hint as to the
identity your character, confirm my suggestion that there is no room
for compassion in semiotics? :-)
Best Wishes to All for a New year filled with compassion.
Cheers
Jerry
On Dec 28, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
Jerry, list - but apart from the perhaps-not-quite-accurate analogy
of 'destitute in a foreign land' - don't you consider that it is
rationally dangerous to set up an analogy that might imply that the
attributes of one set can possibly be fully applied to the second
set?
Human compassion has nothing to do with this attempt at analogous
comparison and to me, it doesn't make sense to suggest that To Make
Such An Analogy is an Act-of-Compassion.
It's a similar false analogy as in the common logical fallacy of:
All cats are animals All dogs are animalsTherefore, all dogs are
cats.
Edwina
On Thu 28/12/17 1:47 PM , Jerry LR Chandler
[email protected] [2] sent:
Peter, List:
Is it possible that what is missing from this philosophical
discussion is simple human compassion?
The Holy Family were destitute in a foreign land.
in parallel sentence structure for the image (icon) without regard
to the facts not stated of the two images,
The refuges are destitute in a foreign land.
Of course, the concept human compassion is seldom an acceptable
argument in semeiotics, or is it?
Cheers
Jerry
On Dec 28, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Skagestad, Peter wrote:
Listers,
I have a somewhat unusual question. My sister is writing an Art
History thesis on nativity scenes and their contemporary relevance.
An example is one at a street mission in Trondheim, Norway, depicting
the Holy Family as present-day refugees from the Middle East. Now the
question is what, if anything, might semiotics have to say about such
depiction? The answer may be obvious, but it escapes me, at least for
the moment. Any suggestions?
Cheers,Peter
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