Hmm. The NPR coverage I heard, in the evenings hosted by Scott Simon,
this week, has been less jingoistic than during the Gulf War, being
especially careful, in the call in portions to respond pro-actively to
callers in that advocate nuking Afghanistan or targetting Arab-Americans, as
happened immediately after OKC.
An impertinant question. Tim, you believe that CNN faked the footage of
Hamas militants celebrating in Nablus?
Michael Pugliese
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Pugliese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: FINANCIERS WARNED OF IMMINENT ATTACK ON WTC!!
Counterpunch lack of fact checking can be maddening. I'll tell an amusing
example from a few yrs. ago in a second.
On the first item below.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/09/14/MN92245.DTL
On this, "CNN's videotape of Palestinians, " saw that from
Marcio A.V. Carvalho, on the Israeli Indymedia website yesterday morning.
Not more than about a dozen more posts down was this,
http://worldtribune.com/wta/Archive-2001/me_palestinians_09_13.html
The NYT on the 12th had this
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/international/middleeast/13PALE.html?ex=10
01455886&ei=1&en=67b786c0ae3df047 (URL did not wrap, cut and paste into
browser) where Arafat admitted that Hamas militants in Nablus were exultent.
This from a list not known for being a pro-Israeli!
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/msg07982.html
Now the amusing story about factchecking at Counterpunch. A freelancer,
from the defunct NYC publication, The Eye, had a piece in Counterpunch that
quoted extensively, Bill White, the notorious far right, Buchananite loon
with the www.libertariansocialism.com and overthrow domains. Bill White, I
wouldn't believe if he said the sky is blue. Sent a few e-mails to Jeff St.
Clair, who later that morning said that Alex and he had decided to retract
that story and never use the services of that freelancer again.
But, my skepticism of Cockburn had been pricked in the early 80's when in
The Nation he
disputed the figures of the # of deaths in the Ukranian famine of the early
30's from Robert Conquest, and gave an absurdly low # of "premature deaths
in the GULAG in the low hundreds of thousands, not the 2 million that is now
the consensus figure.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxist/message/1436
(Stalinist nutters from PLP on Conquest,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marxist/message/825
http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/revisionists/ )
Pages and pages of letters followed in a subsequent issue. Recently,
Cockburn has cast doubt on global warming. Is friendly with
http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/9911/1327.html
Gun Owners of America leader, Larry Pratt. Pratt, as this antifa piece
relates was up to his ears in links to Guatemalan death squads and attended
the meeting in Estes Park, Colorado in '92 addressed by Louis Beam, formerly
of the KKK, on a strategy for the then emergent militias, called,
"leaderless resistance."
And, on Lysander's previous e-mail, have some skepticism about Emperors
New Clothes, both Jared Israel and Michel Chossudovsky. Jared, still denies
the 7,000 killed in Srbenica, and disputes that 200,000 were killed in
Bosnia. On his website you might still be able to find the hour soundwave
file of him debated David Rohde who has written extensively about Srbenica,
on the Australian Bradcasting Corp. Chossudovsky, as well, has repeatedly
appeared on stages with figures like Srjda Trifkovic, a former publicist for
Radovan Karazdic, the Bosnian Serb leader, who had much operational
responsibilty, in terms of signing off on massacres of Muslims in Bosnia by
Mladic and the paramilitaries of the allies of Milosevic party, the SPS,
that were under the control of the far right, neo-fascist, V. Seselj of the
serbian Radical Party. Back to Jared> The International Committee for the
Defense of Slobodan Milosevic (see their website, "Free Slobo!"), despite a
number of e-mails that have been sent to them and allies of theirs like the
Tangents website in Europe, still has signatures of support from the French
fascists in the Third Positionist party, the PCN.
http://www.icdsm.org/activities.htm
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/leninist-international/2001-July/000220
.html
"Red-Browns, " and other "National Bolshevik creeps, as well as other more
generically right wing forces have supported the Milosevic'es and
Karazdic'es.
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports/muttamericabelgrade.htm
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports/gopbelgrade.htm
Michael Pugliese
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From: Lysander Zimmerman
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: FINANCIERS WARNED OF IMMINENT ATTACK ON WTC!!
PLEASE FORWARD TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE
The news will never report this!!
From: www.indymedia.org
and: www.counterpunch.org
FINANCIERS WARNED! Congress left in the dark about WTC foreknowledge
(english)
by relayed from counterpunch 4:06am Fri Sep 14 '01
lots of stuff, MOSTLY THAT FINANCIERS WERE WARNED! and Congress left in the
dark. Internal memo to Goldman Sachs distributed on SEPTEMBER 10 2001
warning emminent terrorism. Wonder why all the big CEOs they have been
reporting were conveniently "out of the office" in the WTC that day? Talk
about private and corrupt power, and Congresspeople are saying this.
By Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair
CounterPunch.org
9-14-1
* Most revealing reaction
Benyamin Netanyahu, former Israeli prime minister, on being asked what the
attack means for relations between the US and Israel: "It's very good."
* Least credible analysis
New York Times columnist William Safire, claiming there was a terrorist mole
in the White House, relaying to the kamikaze pilots the whereabouts of the
President and the special coordinates of Air Force One. Safire's political
mission in that particular column was to explain why the President fled down
a SAC bunker in Nebraska. * Least credible news footage
CNN's videotape of Palestinians supposedly dancing in the streets of a West
Bank town. CounterPuncher Marcio A.V. Carvalho at the state university of
Campinas in Brazil tells us that he and his colleagues had compared this
tape with one from 1991 showing Palestinian cheering, and found them to be
identical. [a claim--though Canadian news footage shows mourning Arabs; U.S.
media shows happy, celebrating Arabs. You put the pieces together on who is
the enemy: THE U.S CORPORATE MEDIA!]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bousquet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ChicoLeft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PEN-L"
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:17100] National Propaganda Radio
> NPR is now airing a church service and patriot music--
> not as a news story with commentary, interviews and so
> forth, but simply in its entirity.
>
> tim
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