Ian says:> A great post. 

thanks. 

> Below is our real problem. [our only one?] How would we fare with such a
disputant?

Ian quotes:> "In recent years, protectionism has also manifested itself in a
somewhat different guise by challenging the moral roots of capitalism and
globalization. At the risk of oversimplification, I  would separate the
differing parties in that debate into three groups. First, there are those
who believe that relatively unfettered capitalism is the only economic
organization consistent with individual and political freedom. In a second
group are those who accept capitalism as the only practical means to achieve
higher standards of living but who are disturbed by the seeming incivility
of many market practices and outcomes. In very broad brush terms, the
prevalence with  which one encounters allegations of incivility defines an
important difference in economic views that distinguishes the United States
from continental Europe -- two peoples having deeply similar roots in
political freedom and democracy.<

I think that this describes a real-world political schism, while there's a
lot of truth to the description of the third group, but AG's description
hides a premise, i.e., that "protectionism" is at the root of the challenge
to "the moral roots of capitalism and globalization." He also doesn't
explain what he means by "freedom." On the first issue, both a high-theory
and a more-empirical approach are needed. On the second, it's more of a
philosophical issue. AG seems to define "freedom" in a purely negative way
(following I. Berlin's definition of different types of freedom). He doesn't
deal with the non-freedom that arises from the freedom of capital, e.g., the
way in which the reserve army of unemployed workers that helps preserve the
capitalists' freedom to profit and accumulate wealth violates the freedom of
the workers themselves (by limiting the choices of the unemployed and those
who fear being laid off or fired). [I use the word "freedom" as refering to
an abundance of choices (ignoring the unfreedom involved in how our
"preferences" are determined), something that can be promoted by government
and restricted by the "private" sector sometimes.] 

> A more pronounced distinction separates both of these groups from a third
group, which views  societal organization based on the profit motive and
corporate culture as fundamentally immoral.

> This group questions in particular whether the distribution of wealth that
results from greater  economic interactions among countries is, in some
sense, "fair." Here terms such as exploitation,"  "subversion of democratic
choice," and other value-charged notions dominate the debate.<

AG here gets into scientism, assuming that he's value free and his opponents
are value-charged. But he's the one who put forth the values of "individual
and political freedom" and "civility." BTW, I think that the phrase
"subversion of democratic choice" is much more obvious in its meaning than
"freedom," so the folks he's lambasting are at least up front about what
they're pushing for.

>These terms too often substitute for a rigorous discussion of the difficult
tradeoffs we confront in advancing the economic welfare of our nations. Such
an antipathy to "corporate culture" has sent tens of thousands into the
streets to protest what they see as "exploitive capitalism" in its most
visible form -- the increased globalization of our economies.<

the idea that the world can be seen totally in terms of "difficult
tradeoffs" and the like is a central part of the broadly-defined liberal
political philosophy. A Marxian philosophy suggests that there are
fundamental conflicts that cannot be described as "tradeoffs." This should
be complemented with empirical/concrete research about the actual nature of
the trade-offs that exist -- and an effort to make sure that the "trading
off" decisions are made democratically rather than by dictatorial elites
such as that led by AG.

>Though presumably driven by a desire to foster a better global society,
most protestors hold  misperceptions about how markets work and how to
interpret market outcomes. To be sure, those  outcomes can sometimes appear
perverse to the casual observer. In today's marketplace, for example,
baseball players earn much more than tenured professors. [horrors!] But that
discrepancy expresses the market fact that more people are willing to pay to
see a ball game than to attend a college lecture. I may not personally hold
the same relative valuation of those activities as others, but that is what
free markets are about. They reflect and give weight to the values of the
whole of society, not just those of any one segment. [Alan Greenspan]<

this business of "free markets" is standard crap. It ignores not only the
institutional differences between the two markets (such as the non-pecuniary
benefits that profs. receive) but also, more fundamentally, the structure of
power and privilege in which such "free markets" operate. To see the latter,
we need more than simple empiricism, though that helps a lot. 

I hope that the above commentary suggests the validity of my approach: both
a theoretical and an empirical approach are needed (along with actual
political action). It's true that different people can do different parts of
this, but separating them in a hard-and-fast way is a version of
divide-and-rule.
JD

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