Hi Ellen

Ellen: Money-printing can't be privatized, but it can be quasi-privatized,
relegated to semi-autonomous and undemocratic central banks, like the
Federal Reserve,
the Bundesbank, or the European Central Bank.   Removing control over money
from normal avenues of democratic accountability has been one of the primary
achievements of  neo-liberalism.

Ellen Frank, Dollars and Dinars, New Internationalist, January 20

Karl: The point I have been making is that capital cannot exist
independently of the state. Some of what you comments support that thesis.
Now since capital cannot exist independently of the state this means that
the operation of the laws of capital can never operate in free form.
Furthermore as capital develops it increasingly requires an increasingly
economically active state. This means that under capitalism today the
operation of the laws of capital  operate in even greater unadulterated
form. Consequently in any concrete analysis of the operation of capital the
state must be factored into the analysis. Otherwise analysis has an overly
abstract character if  concrete analysis that is the intention. Marx's
Capital (I include here its four volumes) was abstract analysis. It was not
intended as an analysis of a particular capitalist society.

The problem facing communists is in how. How is capital and the state
related and how do the laws of capital operate in the context of a state?
There will be always theoretical and analytical difficulties in providing
concrete analysis of a particular capitalist economy while this problem has
not been successfully resolved. It is in this context that I call for a
review of Capital and indeed Marx's thought and politics in general. This is
the task that faces communists.

It is this problem that explains why there has never been any known concrete
analysis of a particular capitalist economy on the basis of Capital. Any
attempts claiming to be based on Capital are, loosely speaking, either
overly abstract or excessively empirical. The former tends to endeavour, in
some way or other, to replicate Capital while the latter tends to abandon
Capital. Both are thereby frozen in history.

You have witnessed this problem resurfacing again on this list in relation
to the Fed's monetarism.On the question of interest rates there was a lack
of clarity of the character of the relation of capital to the state: the
relationship of the state to interest rates.

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