>Ian:
>Indeed, lots of the problems of modernity are the uses
>to which logic, scientific thinking etc. have been put and those
>problems are not reducible to the problems created by capitalism.

Yes, I think the basis of many of modern society's worst difficulties is the 
pernicious objectification of the individual that results from the 
scientific method, in all its many forms -- especially including the social 
sciences -- and with all its many appurtenances, including collection and 
analysis of statistics such as the jobless rate.  I don't know any answer to 
this problem, since science is so central to modern life, but I do see it as 
a problem.  Scientific study by its nature puts distance between a human 
observer and human subject, creates a hierarchical relationship and 
deliberately limits development of empathy.  I think this has had a deeply 
damaging effect on human relations overall.

Carl

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