>Ian: >Indeed, lots of the problems of modernity are the uses >to which logic, scientific thinking etc. have been put and those >problems are not reducible to the problems created by capitalism.
Yes, I think the basis of many of modern society's worst difficulties is the pernicious objectification of the individual that results from the scientific method, in all its many forms -- especially including the social sciences -- and with all its many appurtenances, including collection and analysis of statistics such as the jobless rate. I don't know any answer to this problem, since science is so central to modern life, but I do see it as a problem. Scientific study by its nature puts distance between a human observer and human subject, creates a hierarchical relationship and deliberately limits development of empathy. I think this has had a deeply damaging effect on human relations overall. Carl _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com