On the "entrepreneur" , it's a noun form of the  French word for "go
between" or "take between".   I'm wondering how the concept of
"middleman" fits in to the different business types discussed here.  Of
course, ancient traders were "middlemen" in some sense, taking goods
between towns or societies.   Marx points out that commodity exchange
originates on the periphery of societies,  in "time in memorial". 
Commodity production only becomes the predominant form of production
with capitalism.

Charles

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> John seems to be following a non-Schumpeterian definition of
> "entrepreneur" entrepreneurs are simply small business-owners. I
> prefer the term "petty bourgeois" for them, though to some extent
> definitions are merely a matter of taste. (BTW, I distinguish the
> petty bourgeoisie from the professional-managerial "middle layers.")


I think this is a misunderstanding. Small business owners e.g. a pizza
shop owners are not entrepreneurs. A programmer in a Silicon Valley
garage with a good software, or a university professor with a new
invention looking to turn their ideas into real products are
entrepreneurs. e.g. the founders of Google were entrepreneurs when
they started out. *Successful* entrepreneurs (like the Google guys),
of course, eventually become capitalists but I don't see why that has
to be the case.

John V is quite right in pointing out that entrepreneurs are usually
victims of capitalists (VCs) just as workers are.
-raghu



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