On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeffrey Fisher wrote: > > i'm not sure that's the same thing. subcontractors can be whole > companies, > > even if they're only a handful of people, but they can be much bigger. > also, > > they are often paid well. > > right? > > maybe in the near future, universities will subcontract teaching out > to various corporations. maybe. i don't see the money in it for a corporation. schools are already to busy trying adn failing to "rationalize" teaching. > Here at LMU, we already subcontract out the > bookstore, campus security, the food service, and campus printing > services. It's partly because the Jesuits who run the university feel > (and are) incompetent when it comes to non-academic stuff. (Our > bookstore was subcontracted out to a company that buys and sells used > books (Follette). Can anyone guess what kind of incentives that > produces?) likewise the school where i taught until just recently. this is going around. last i heard, they are going to be farming out dorms, too. btw -- subcontracting isn't contracting. for example, MyOldSchool contracted to a food service company, but afaik that company did not subcontract work further than that. many government contractors do lots of subcontracting to get their work done. they have their core of people and then when they land contracts, they pull in the additional people needed to do the job, whom they do often have available as a kind of informal labor pool. but again they are also sometimes whole companies. at least to my knowledge. and even many of the independents have those contractors as only one of several clients. not the same as "several clients" meaning XU's history department and religion dept. > > > > and there's no analog to tenure. > > in non-academic jobs, sometimes higher-level or unionized employees > have something akin to tenure (though usually it's weaker) once they > get beyond the probation period. In law and medicine, they have > something even more like tenure, i.e., being made a partner. an interesting point, but again not the same security as tenure, in the case of post-probation, and partner is actually a form of ownership, right? so much much bigger than tenure, in certain ways. i think. j > > -- > Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own > way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >
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