me: >> in non-academic jobs, sometimes higher-level or unionized employees >> have something akin to tenure (though usually it's weaker) once they >> get beyond the probation period. In law and medicine, they have >> something even more like tenure, i.e., being made a partner.
Jeff: > an interesting point, but again not the same security as tenure, in the case > of post-probation, and partner is actually a form of ownership, right? so > much much bigger than tenure, in certain ways. > i think. there are degrees of job security, and I'd bet that some tenure is stronger than others. Or has the AAUP standardized it? Being partner involves owning part of a firm, but I don't know if lawyers or doctors have to make actual financial contributions to become partners in their firms. (I'd like to know, if anyone is an expert on this.) If they don't have to make financial contributions to become partners, it's pretty much the same as tenure. You earn the partnership/tenure via "hard work" (as defined by those who already have partnership/tenure and perhaps hired managers). Having tenure as a professor is like having a kind of property rights in a job. (It's a superior type, I think, because I can't pass the property rights down to my heirs.) If one is tenured, one is supposed to participate in various management-type functions, so it's like being a "partner." Of course, it's different from owning stock, because some jerks could decide to stop giving you raises or to publicly shun you (as happened to Paul Baran at Stanford). This might happen if you don't participant in management functions (or because of political bias, as with Baran). Perhaps the main difference between partnership in a law or medical firm and tenure at a college or university is that the firms are for-profit while colleges and universities are (officially) not for-profit. -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
