We do get the costs of creating the debt -- gambling casinos, accounting
services, economists ....


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
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Subject: [Pen-l] Re: Reality catches up with catastrophists

Jim:

> GDP is supposed to be the gross domestic Product, i.e., the amount of
> goods and services newly produced during in a country (and sold
> through markets) during a given year. If private debt appears  as part
> of GDP, it would only be the amount of labor services provided to
> allow loans to occur. But that's not part of GDPI, which refers only
> to the purchase of newly produced goods.

We know these Jim. But, think about the newly produced debt Michael
mentioned in his example: a bet on that the San Francisco 49ers will
win the next two Super Bowls. Is this a "good" or a "service?" I don't
know. But it is something newly produced and sold through markets.
What is this bet and why does it not show in the GDP?

Best,
Sabri
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