Doyle, your "no" is a hypothesis. I think there is a strong case for
it. But not ironclad. Even the emancipation proclamation was no more
than a war measure and applied only to enemy territory. Does anyone
seriously believe that slavery would have ended sooner but for
half-measures like the election of Lincoln in 1860 and the
emancipation proclamation of 1863? Is there no dialectic?


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Doyle Saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings Economists,
> No you are quite wrong.  They cannot go to 'our' position.
> On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Sandwichman wrote:
>
>> t was not until 1863 that Lincoln was won over to the cause
>> emancipation. Until then he prosecuted the Civil War to preserve the
>> Union, NOT TO FREE THE SLAVES. It is not the intention of Obama and
>> the Democrats to emancipate wage labor. But they have "undertaken a
>> problem, the solution of which will force them to our position..."
>
> Doyle;
> That must come from the people themselves now.  The movement must demand
> either SD (Social Democracy) which Obama can or cannot deliver, or go
> further.  Because Obama like LIncoln will not open that door except as
> war/chaos demands it of the moment.  Then this failure to meet the demands
> is our own dawning.  Our time to seize the time.
> Thanks,
> Doyle
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