But I am not sure that what happened is in accord with what Carl says below, that the democrats "could have passed the bill but not have defeated the filibuster."

According to the papers the bill did pass, with 52 votes. Doesnt a filibuster take place to stop a vote? Isnt it the case that once a filibuster starts, which means talking to stop a vote, that you need 60 votes to force a vote on the motion. But the papers claim that there was a vote on the measure and it passed. I dont think that the Republicans actually launched a filibuster--so when does the threat become real--

Marty

Carl Dassbach wrote:

This is not weird, at least not as I understand it. I think the key issue was concessions from the UAW. Repugnicans wanted concessions from the UAW in the form of accepting a wage and benefit packages similar to those found in Japanese transplants. Democrits did not want to make these concessions. So, they could have passed the bill but they could not have defeated the filibuster so the bill would have stalled. Bush, in my opinion, doesn't care one way or the other. He is a lame duck and is willing to do anything to look "good" in his last few weeks in office.


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