[email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi Carrol, even if you don't think the nationalization of banks with
> haircuts is a step on the road to socialism, don't you think it is the
> most fair and equitable policy to address the insolvency of banks?

Probably -- but that raises other than economic considerations.

My focus is on the coming-in-to-existence of some sort of
minimally-coherent left that can both have an impact on national policy
AND, more importantly, create a framework in which debate on the left re
WITBD can have some traction. I realize the phrase "coherent left" is
pretty ambiguous -- deliberately so. I reject as museum pieces the
parties and of the 2d/3d/4th internationals, but do not have any formula
for new forms of organization. Hence the vagueness of the 'goal' I set.

Lacking such a "coherent left," leftists opinions on what the government
should and should not do are pretty vacuous -- mutterings in the corner
or in a mirror as it were.

Movements, out of which can flow debate on and development of forms of
organization and postive programs, usually (in fact I suspect always)
begin with Saying NO, not with policy wonk arguments over the details of
government programs. The discussion I want is discussion of how to say
NO in various ways now that in saying it we will begin to gather
together in various circles in which further No-saying and critical
discussion can occur, thus beginning to generate a superior network of
semi-organized leftists which in turn can be the salt (not necessarily
the leadership) of a new outburst of mass activity under whatever future
conditions that might occur.

I'm trying to avoid both volunterrism and crystal-ball gazing here. No
one has ever predicted a mass outburst in advance, nor is there any
acceptable theory of how to create such an outburst. But I think that
they are always preceded (and aided when they emerge) by continuous
'practice' of local groups (with some inter-communication) in saying No.

Carrol

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