Greetings Economists,
It is a fact that working class organization preceded WWI and that major organizations spawned political parties and actions throughout the nineteenth century. The moments of rebellions were fed by agitation on a large scale due to the nature of cities. What is missing now is the organizations that could shape the masses. Those can be built now. And they do actually arise from argument between factions. So Marx did target anarchists.

I think this concept of volunteers you have is poorly conceived. You argue for the basic premise of organizing around progressive issues but only in terms of vague concepts of social change. It seems to me quite possible to make substantial statements and pretty concrete proposals of what is to be done and do a lot of building now. That we know social pressures will build and offer more fertile grounds for at the very least reforms. And given international changes potential for reining in the basic U.S. imperial system that in turn foments radical change globally.
thanks,
Doyle Saylor
On Apr 11, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:

I completely agree. My attacks on such volunteerism over the years have been the basis for weird accusations of passivity on my part. The actual appearance of such movents _always_ catches everyone by surprise, and so
far as I know that everyone  includes the people who bring them into
existence. In fact, I am sceptical that anything can be "argued" into
existence. But that is a subject for another day.

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