On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 22:18, raghu <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Sean Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The fascist system was based on capitalist property relations. "Corporatism" >>> was the form that capitalism took in Spain, Portugal, Italy and Germany. It >>> does not matter that Hitler called himself a National Socialist. Those were >>> just words. He was a capitalist politician. >> >> Shhh. Quiet, Lou. David's declaring victory. Let him have this moment. >> > > > I think in the narrow sense of demonstrating the inadequacies of a > naive left-right spectrum, David is quite justified in declaring > victory. > -raghu. >
Perhaps, but he's consistently ignored the basic material difference, qua private property, between right and left (from the perspective of the left) as Lou, Marv, I, and others have pointed out--a difference which conflicts with the grid design he'd proffered as the primary means of making this distinction. The original post was indeed focused on a more social understanding of right/left since it was focused on the race-baiting of the current populism in the US, which probably would have been the best way to explain it. But in any case, we've all been pointing out that it is difficult to make a simple distinction between these categories so David's claim to victory is a bit of an appropriation: just like a (pro-)capitalist to claim, as an individual effort, the fruits of a social process of production. -s PS: just kidding David. It's been a good exercise. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
