From: Shane Mage On Jun 10, 2010, at 5:03 PM, c b wrote: > > Cheikh Diop has a whole discussion of why there were no revolutions in > Egypt in _Civilization or Barbarism_
No revolutions? As Ipuwer lamented, "slaves are wearing the jewels of their masters." And the Book of Exodus describes the same event (celebrating, not lamenting) as "The Israelites found favor in the eyes of the Egyptians" and left with their gold and jewels. ^^^^^ CB: Jim D said that the Egyptians had socialized appropriation ( first I had heard of that). What u describe would be facts fitting that situation: the working class appropriating the value they produce. If there is socialized appropriation, there is no need for revolution; communism already exists. Very interesting that the Israelites themselves claim that they got gold and jewels from their hosts in Egypt. I don't buy that "Let my people go " line in Exodus. The Pharoah in Joseph's time rewarded Joseph by allowing him to bring his whole tribe into the advanced civlization of Egypt. The Egyptians only suppressed the Israelites when they didn't control their birth rate and started to outnumber the Egyptians. This is the Israelites own version in the Book. The Israelites became rude guests. I think they got kicked out. So, it wasn't about "let them go". If all the "ifs" are true, then "slaves" would be the wrong term. It may be a term from more modern slave systems projected inaccurately onto the Egyptian system. _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
