Jim Devine wrote:
> In the US left, there have always been those who aren't interested in
> promoting socialism as much as the economic development of
> underdeveloped nations. These folks prefer state-promoted economic
> development, rejecting the neoliberal market-oriented approach. They
> may not like much of what the Chinese government does, but see the
> problem more as a matter of the CP there being ignorant or misled
> about policy issues. They don't worry about class issues as much as
> international core/periphery relationships.
> 
> To the extent that these folks see themselves as socialist, they
> equate socialism with state ownership and/or control of the means of
> production, missing or minimizing the need for popular-democratic
> control of the state.  (Sometimes they seem to assume that workers'
> control of the state prevails -- despite the clear lack of democracy
> -- perhaps due to the alleged ability of the CP to know and act on
> workers' long-term interests while ignoring its own collective
> interests and its members' individual interests.)
> 
> A classic case of this phenomenon was the late Paul Baran.

I think you mean Gus Hall and Sam Marcy rather than Paul Baran.
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