Paul Cockshott wrote:
> Here is a short article I wrote last week in the light of the comments on 
> marginalism
> http://reality.gn.apc.org/econ/jelle.pdf
> 

Hi Paul,

        Your article "Competing Theories: Wrong or Not Even Wrong?" provides a 
concise introduction to the work of a number of economists who hold that what 
they regard as the direct labor theory of value is correct, and who are 
opposed to the idea of prices of production, the transformation problem, etc. 
But unfortunately, I have to say that I disagree with its two main aspects.

        First of all, it raises the important issue that "the political 
setbacks of 
the 1980s dented this self-confidence [in Marxism]. An alternative economic 
programme came to dominance -- that of neo-liberalism." I think that since 
then neo-liberalism has indeed sunk deep into the bones of even many would-be 
progressive economists, and limits various people's conception to advocating 
things that the present bourgeois politicians might accept, rather than 
looking into helping organize an independent movement of the working class 
with an economic outlook that is diametrically opposed to the illusions of 
capitalist economics.

        But to my surprise, your article seems to identify this depressed neo-
liberal state of economics with some of the basic theses of Marx and Engels.  
It advocates a form of the labor theory of value that

a) is incompatible with any tendency towards an equalization of the rate of 
profit (among those sectors of the economy between which capital can flow 
easily)

b) is incompatible with the idea of prices of production

c) denounces the idea that the value of a product is the socially-necessary 
amount of abstract labor contained in it. It says that "In economics one can 
formulate weaker versions of the labour theory of value in which monetary 
value added is proportional not to observed labour, but to social necessary 
labour. If one so defines socially necessary necessary labour, that its 
necessity is only revealed by by [sic] the movement of market prices, then 
one does indeed end up with a theory so weak as to be not even wrong."

   Of course, anyone has the right to put forward their objections to the 
views of Marx and Engels. But please, let's have the decency to admit that 
these are not views that arose in 1980s as a result of left-wing 
demoralization and influence from marginalism, but views that arose much 
earlier as part of a revolutionary challenge to the bourgeoisie and its 
views.

   Your article then goes on to cite the theoretical and empirical work of 
that trend of economists who deny the equalization of the rate of profit and 
who deny the need to consider price/value deviations. But I was surprised by 
the uncritical attitude you had both to their theorizing and to their 
empirical evidence.

   For example, one of your references is to the article of David Zachariah, 
"Labour value and equalisation of profit rates", Indian Development Review 4 
(2006), no. 1, 1-21. Zachariah wrote that "This study investigates the 
empirical strength of the labour theory of value and its relation to profit 
rate equalisation. It replicates tests from previous studies, using input-
output data from 18 countries spanning from year 1968 to 200."

        But what was the result of this comprehensive study? Zachariah writes 
in 
section 5 "Conclusion" that "Production price is not found to be a superior 
predictor of market price and indeed deviates little from labour values." 
Zachariah thus denigrates the idea of prices of production on the grounds 
that they are not superior as a predictor to the direct or vulgar form of the 
labor theory of theory. This is a rather odd way of summing up data, because 
he is actually also stating that the direct labor theory of value was not 
superior to prices of production. But apparently tie goes to the theory that 
Zachariah likes.

    That what it means when Zachariah says that prices of production and 
labor values deviate little from each other. If that's so, then doesn't it 
mean that the empirical tests would have a hard time distinguishing between 
them? Doesn't it mean that an empirical test should have concentrated on 
those enterprises in which prices of production and labor values did differ, 
so as to see whether in reality there were some prices of production 
distinctly different from value?

    If prices of production and labor values really don't differ too much, 
this would speak in favor of Marx's approach, which essentially regards 
prices of production as a perturbation on value. But Marx's approach didn't 
require that this perturbation was always very small. And I would be somewhat 
surprised if prices of production and labor values never deviated for any 
enterprises.

   But the explanation for this can be found earlier in Zachariah's article. 
In Section 2.2, where he is setting up a probabilistic framework, he says 
that various quantities "are likely to be close to the average wage rate and 
profit-wage ratio in the economy respectively. Due to the highly integrated 
nature of modern economics [the appropriate value]... is made up by the sum 
of a large number of random variables; each of which is small relative to the 
whole sum and assumed to be independent." Underneath this technical language, 
what is going on is that he is assuming that the prices involved come from 
products whose production involves such a wide array of other products that 
the organic composition is pretty average. This or that input might be 
exceptional -- but there are so many inputs that everything averages out. Of  
course, under that assumption, the prices of production will be the same as 
the values.

    And this seems to be what was found in the various studies. All of these 
studies that I have looked out so far had to disregard "outliers" in the 
statistical correlations that they were making. Zachariah himself notes this 
in, for example, Section 4.2 "Empirical Distributions" by the way he seeks to 
explain away these outliers. He writes that "Sectors with very low price-
value ratios are typically health care and education services and similar non-
marketed outputs. The outliers in the high ratio region are tobacco and 
mainly a category of products presumably exhibiting high rent effects such as 
crude petroleum, natural gas and petroleum refinery products." He writes of a 
good fit in "the core of capitalist sectors", but not the outliers.

        You and Zachariah both lay stress on the work of Machover and Farjoun, 
set 
forward in their book "Laws of chaos, a probabilistic approach to political 
economy". But Machover and Farjoun also try to explain away outliers. In 
their chapter on empirical data, they write things like "Consider the 
quotient A/B or net output per unit of wage paid. In chapter III we reported 
the phenomenon that this quotient varies very little from one branch of 
production to the other with (non-oil, non-rent) manufacturing industry." So 
this already shows that they are going to restrict themselves to only part of 
manufacturing industry.

    They go on to illustrate this with Figure 9 on net output per pound
sterling of wages in British industries. On pp. 179-180 they say that
"Notice that the largest deviation is in the food and drinks industry --
this is perhaps related to the relatively high rent factor  of oil and
agricultural derivatives. Clearly, the low value of A/B  in the
shipbuilding and vehicle industries points to a deep crisis here, which
is relatively low productivity."

     Actually, in Figure 9, the greatest deviation is in the chemical
industry, and the various outliers amount to one-third of the weight of
industry. (I calculate the weight via the figures Farjoun and Machover give 
figures for the "relative weight" in the economy of the various industries.)

   The same thing occurs in another research paper from the direct labor 
theory of value trend, although this one isn't referred to in your  article. 
Nils Frohlich refers to outliers in his paper "Labour values, prices of 
production and the missing equalization of profit rates: Evidence from
the German economy" (November 30, 2010). In his section on "Empirical
framework" he writes that "Some sectors were removed from the analysis
because they are outliers. This procedure is  harmless [supposedly!!-JG]
since all of these sectors are either highly state-regulated (coal,
water supply), rent-biased (oil) or offer non-market goods."

    And Paul, your work itself refers to such outliers. I downloaded an 
article you referred me to,  "A note on the organic composition of capital 
and  profit rates" (2003). It reiterates data also found in your and  
Cottrell's paper "The Scientific Status of the Labour Theory of Value" 
(1997), but adds some additional explanation, which I found useful. But both 
papers refer to, in order to dismiss, outliers.  Take the discussion of 
Figure 1 in the second paper. It refers to exceptions which "fall into two 
categories, each arguably exceptional. First, there are the regulated 
utilities, electricity supply and gas supply....Second, there are industries 
of high organic composition in which rent plays a major role ... "

    The existence of outliers casts doubt on the statistical correlations and 
on your evaluation of the empirical data. If one were seeking a clear 
empirical test of two theories,  one would want to test the difference 
between the simplified theory  of value and Marx's theory precisely on those 
enterprises where the difference would be expected to be greatest. Sure 
enough, there we find outliers. 

    But suppose that the statistical correlations were accurate for the 
section of the economy studied, minus the outliers. It is said that the 
outliers can be disregarded because they are industries which are 
monopolized, or have major rent-seeking behavior, or are government-
regulated, or have other exceptional circumstances. It is ignored that this 
characterization of the outliers shows that their behavior is a regular 
behavior, subject to economic law. A theory of value should be able to deal 
with them. A theory of value that leaves them out is in trouble. Instead one 
would have to deal with the issue of surplus value was transferred between 
the other industries and the outliers, and among the outliers. This is a sort 
of generalized transformation problem.

     You assume, as does Zachariah and others, that if one could disprove the 
equalization of the rate of profit, then the transformation problem vanishes. 
But to make this issue go away, you oversimplify the issue of the 
equalization of the rate of profit: the literature you refer to seems to 
repeatedly confuse two different ideas, the *tendency* towards an 
equalization of the rate of profit, and an actually equal rate of profit. 
Thus the economists who deny the equalization of the rate of profit seem to 
generally admit some tendency towards the equalization of the rate of profit. 
But if the rates of profit aren't completely equalized, they believe they 
have defeated the Marxist theory of the tendency towards an equalization of 
the rate of profit. 
   
      Now, as far as Marx's view, he stressed, with regard to the 
equalization of the rate of profit,  that "the general law acts as as the 
prevailing tendency only in a very complicated and approximate manner, as a 
never ascertainable average of ceaseless fluctuations" ("Capital", vol. III, 
Ch. IX, p. 161, Progress Publishers) and "the general rate of profit is never 
anything more than a tendency." ("Capital", vol. III. Ch XII, p. 366)

     I have further criticisms of the empirical date compiled on the rate of 
profit, including grave doubts about whether what was looked at was actually 
the rate of profit. But that aside, you and Zachariah and others ignore that, 
even if there weren't the slightest tendency towards an equalization of the 
rate of profit, even if there weren't any reason to talk about prices of 
production based on the tendency to this equalization, this still wouldn't 
eliminate the issue of the transformation problem.

   Price/value deviations, in the labor theory of value, raise the issue of 
the redistribution of surplus value between different capitalists. Any 
systematic (not random) price/value deviations lead to this. Even if the only 
price/value deviations were because of monopolies, rent-seeking behavior, and 
so forth, this would still require a discussion of the transfer of surplus 
value between capitalists. Marx discussed the transformation problem with 
regard to the equalization of the rate of profit. This sufficed, as it gave 
an example of what was at stake in any redistribution of surplus value due to 
price/value deviations. But it is any price/value deviations, not simply 
prices of production, that call forward this issue. My own discussion of the 
transformation problem last year (see 
communistvoice.org/45cTransformation1.html -- so far only part 1 has appeared 
in print) deals only with the equalization of the rate of profit, but is 
easily adapted to any other price/value deviations.

-- Joseph Green
    [email protected]




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