Of course we realise that actual prices will not exactly correspond to prices 
of production, the issue is how wide the dispersion is. The whole tenor of the 
debate in the past was that prices of production were closer to real prices 
than labour values are. The point that the empirical work brings out is that 
there is surprisingly little difference between them. In the UK the correlation 
of prices of production to market prices is marginally better than that for 
labour values but the difference is not big enough to be statistically 
significant. More importantly the key assumption of prices of production theory 
- that the rate of profit on capitals of differnent compostitions will be the 
same is invalid. There is a systematic tendency for capitals of high organic 
composition to earn lower rates of profit.



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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Shane Mage [[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:58 AM
To: Progressive Economics
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Marginalism wrong or not even wrong

On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Joseph Green wrote:

Paul Cockshott wrote:

I think that the theory of prices of production, like the labour theory of 
value has
to be put to the test. The test indicates that both are about equally good at
predicting actual monetary value added.

"Price of Production" Is nothing but what Marshall called "Long Run Average 
Cost" and it is entirely dependent on the assumption of perfect competition.  
Marx, like Marshall, makes that assumption with the clear realization that it 
does *not* apply to price-formation in the "Real World," where monopoly effects 
and barriers to entry dominate.  It is simply an *abstraction* from the actual 
market mechanisms, justified by the fact that the dynamics of capitalism as a 
system are determined by profits and expected profitability, not by market 
prices.  To query whether "prices of production" (let alone "labor-time 
values") can be used to "explain" market prices is a gross misunderstanding of 
Marx (and even of Marshall!).


Shane Mage

"All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things,
as goods are for gold and gold for goods."

Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90


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