On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

> and Apple products are typically more expensive than their non-Apple
> competitors.

No, they are not. And I am surprised to see that comment on a list where 
members discuss economic facts and theories on a daily basis.

In fact competitors cannot match Apple's prices. That's why they are loosing 
share every day. Even though they have access to the exact same resources: 
Foxconn & Cie for one.

You don't seriously think that Apple's share in the US for laptops has raised 
from 5% to 23 % with machines more expensive than competitors' ? And laptops 
are typically more expensive than equivalent desktops...

Honestly, if on one hand you have a 1kg machine enclosed in aluminum and 
tightly integrated inside vs a 2kg machine mostly in plastic and with twice the 
volume, but with equivalent "internal" specs, do you really consider that the 
machines are equivalent from a user point of view or that their prices should 
be the same ? How do you compare the machines ?

In other terms, how to do price the industrial design that, on a car, will make 
you save a few gpm for example ?

> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, michael perelman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I do so because Apple's products are seductive, but I think have many
>> negative aspects -- enclosing what would be better as an more open
>> system.


Jean-Christophe Helary
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