I was referring to the Stalin phase; I don't know what Stalin's goals
were beyond consolidating power. But as the commies used to say,
"objectively" his regime was promoting nationalist industrialization.

You're right that Lenin and the Bolsheviks didn't know what they were
doing. Lenin may have been trying to set up something like what he
described in THE STATE AND REVOLUTION. But the actual revolution is
better described by Rabinowitz's THE BOLSHEVIKS COME TO POWER or maybe
Isaac Deutscher's books.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Doug Henwood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
>
>> To my mind, the USSR and the PRC were doing nothing but promoting a
>> nationalist form of industrialization
>
> Sometimes when I read things like this, I think they fail to appreciate how 
> hard it was to do what they were trying. How do you organize socialist 
> enterprise? They were doing it on the fly.
>
> This speech of Lenin's is very interesting on expertise and labor discipline 
> under socialism:
>
>  http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/may/26b.htm
>
> Doug
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be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But
in poetry, it's the exact opposite." -- Paul Dirac. Social science is
in the middle.... and usually in a muddle.
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